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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Xanaqui" data-source="post: 4093599" data-attributes="member: 56394">I've done a bit of analysis of the LV 1 PCs recently released by WOTC; this is a write-up of some of my findings, modified from input from most of the posters below (see the posts below for detail). As expected, at LV 1, attribute modifiers are calculated the same as in 3.xHP at LV 1 (assumption: all HP are from Con score and class):Wizard: 10 + Con scoreWarlock, Ranger, Cleric: 12 + Con scoreFighter, Paladin: 15 + Con scorePlausible HP per LV at LV 2+:Wizard: 4Warlock, Ranger, Cleric: 5Fighter, Paladin: 6Healing Surges/day (assumption: all healing surges are from class and Con Mod):Warlock, Ranger, Wizard: 6 + Con ModifierCleric: 7 + Con ModifierFighter: 9 + Con ModifierPaladin: 10 + Con ModifierBloodied HP are 1/2 max HP; surge healing amount is 1/4 max HPAC: Base AC 10 + higher of Dex Mod or Int mod for non-metal armorsBase AC 10 for metal armorsNothing: +0 to ACLeather: +3 to ACHide: +3 to ACChain: +6 to AC - 1 armor check penaltyScale: +7 to AC -2 armor check penaltyPlate: +8 to AC -4 armor check penaltyH Shield: +2 to ACHalfling: +0 to AC (via size small)Fort (assumes that modifiers are from Con Mod, Str Mod, class, and race, and that class always modifies by 2):Base: 10 + higher of Con Mod or Str ModFighter: +2Eladrin, Halfling, Human: +1Ref (assumes that modifiers are from Dex Mod Int mod, Shield, class, and race, and that class always modifies by 2):Base: 10 + higher of Dex Mod or Int mod, +2 for Heavy ShieldEladrin, Half-Elf, Halfling, Human: +1Will (assumes that modifiers are from Wis Mod, Cha mod, class, and race, and that class always modifies by 2):Base: 10 + higher of Wis Mod or Cha modWizard, Cleric: +2Paladin: +2 according to the released sheet; +0 according to reported errata.Half-Elf, Eladrin, Halfling, Human: +1[SPOILER]Will: Assuming Wis mod alone gives me +6 to make up somewhere for the 1/2 elf warlock, so I'm guessing that this isn't the case. Using Cha mod in place of Wis mod has the same problem, but with the human Cleric. HEre's the forumla that fit the best of the ones I tried:Will (assumes that modifiers are from Wis Mod, Cha mod, class, and race, and that class always modifies by 2):Base: 10 + Wis Mod + Cha modWarlock, Wizard, Cleric: +2Eladrin, Dwarf, Tiefling: +1[/SPOILER]Init mod = Dex modSpeed is 6, except for the Scale-clad dwarf and plate-clad halfling - both of which are 5. I'd guess that that speed penalty is from race, not armor, but it's not clear.It seems that attacks at LV 1 are Weapon prof + Ability Mod + d20 , dealing base dice + ability mod damage where:For melee combat, ability mod is StrFor missile combat, ability mod is DexFor Thrown combat, to hit ability modifier is Dex; damage modifier is the better of Str or Dex[SPOILER]With these assumptions, there are four to hit exceptions; the Warlock, Fighter, Hafling Paladin, and Wizard all get an additional +1 on their basic attacks. Guesses:Wizard, Warlock: +1 to hit with DaggerFighter (alternate possibility: Dwarven Weapons training) +1 to hitHalfling (alternate possibility: Paladin) +1 to hit[/SPOILER]The only exception for damage is from the Dwarven Fighter. I'm going to guess that the extra +2 comes from Dwarven Weapons Training, and that it may be limited to specific weapons (including, at least, the Warhammer and Handaxe)Weapons are 3.0 style (the halfling doesn't do different damage with a weapon; they merely wield different weapons)If the below are true, there is an exception for to hit for the Fighter. I'm guessing that Dwarven Weapons training grants +2 to hit with at least the Warhammer and Handaxe.Base Damage (assumption: these are all unmodified):1d10 : Warhammer (prof 1), Longbow (prof 2)1d8: Longsword (prof 2), Mace (prof 2)1d6: Shortsword (prof 3), Throwing Hammer (prof 2), Handaxe (prof 1)1d4: Dagger (prof 3)Passive Insight is Insight modifier + 10Passive Perception is Perception modifier + 10Skills and apparent modifiers:Acrobatics (Dex, Armor)Arcana (Int)Athletics (Str, Armor)Bluff (Dex)Dungeoneering (unknown; 3.x was Int)Diplomacy (Cha)Endurance (Con)Heal (Wis)History (Int)Insight (Wis)Intimidate (unknown; 3.x was Cha)Nature (Int)Perception (Wis)Religion (Int)Stealth (Dex, Armor)Streetwise (Cha)Thievery (Dex)Trained grants +5. Assuming that the training choice is by class (with a sole exception for a feat), here are the trained skills by class:Warlock: Bluff, Insight, Streetwise, ThieveryRanger: Acrobatics, Athletics, History, Nature, Perception, StealthFighter: Athletics, Endurance, Heal, StreetwisePaladin: Diplomacy, Heal, Insight, ReligionWizard: Arcana, History, Nature (Stealth is trained via feat)Cleric: Athletics, Heal, History, Insight, ReligionAll modifiers that aren't from armor, base or trained, I assume are from race (obviously, other sources are possible):Half-Elf: +2 InsightEladrin: +2 History, +1 Nature (alternate possibility: Ranger grants +1 Nature)Halfling: +2 AcrobaticsTiefling: +2 StealthRace vs. classThe main trick to note is that racial and class abilities are grouped separately on these sheets; it appears that the racial abilities are first, then class abilities, then vision and languages.Half-elfGroup DiplomacyLang (there are likely other choices for the last one): Common, Elven, GoblinLow-Light VisionEladrinEladrin WillLang: Common, ElvenLow-Light VisionFey OriginTranceFey StepDwarfCast-Iron StomachLang: Common, DwarvenLow-Light VisionDwarven ResilienceStand Your GroundHalflingSmall SizeLang (there are likely other choices for the last one): Common, ElvenBoldNimble ReactionSecond ChanceTiefling:BloodhuntFire Res 5Infernal WrathLang (there are likely other choices for the last two): Common, Elven, GoblinLow-Light VisionHumanFeat: Human Perseverance (Likely there are other options)Lang (there are likely other choices for the last one): Common, DwarvenWarlockFey PactPrime ShotShadow WalkWarlock's CurseObviously, for most classes, one expects that there are options not shown here.Ranger+1 featFighterCombat Challenge (mark)Combat Challenge (AOO vs shift)Combat SuperiorityPaladinChannel Divinity: Divine MettleChannel Divinity: Divine StrengthWizardArcane Implement MasteryCantripsRitual CastingSpellbookClericChannel Divinity: Divine FortuneChannel Divinity: Turn UndeadHealing WordRitual CastingAbility score guesses:Using the 3.x point buy system, I can derive that each character is 29-30 points. My inability to get to the exact same points suggest to me that while close, the generation method used is not exactly the 3.x method.Conceivable ability mods:Half-Elf: Con +2, Cha +2 (29 points)Eladrin: Dex +2, Int +2 (29 points) (instead of Int, might be Str, Wis or Cha)Dwarf: Con +2, Wis +2 (30 points) (instead of Wis, might be Dex or Int)Halfling: Dex +2, Cha +2 (29 points) (instead of Cha, may be Wis; instead of Dex, may be Str or Con)Tiefling: Dex +2, Int +2 (29 points; the Int mod is pretty certain) (instead of Dex, may be Str, Con, or Cha)Human: Wis (possibly choice) +2 (30 points)</blockquote>

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