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Analysis of the new stat pairs for elf, eladrin, dwarf, halfling
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<blockquote data-quote="Mengu" data-source="post: 5312485" data-attributes="member: 65726"><p>I think these optional stats not only create new "perfect combos" but also make more classes "workable" for a race.</p><p></p><p>For instance, I wouldn't really dream of playing an elf warlock before, but now it's workable, since I can sink an 18 into Charisma or Con, and after racial modifiers end up with a 16 Intelligence giving decent riders and AC, and 13 dexterity, which is sufficiently high for Dual implement.</p><p></p><p>Similarly, an Eladrin Paladin was in no way an option, but now the Charisma bonus makes it a reasonable option for a paladin who won't actually suck at religion. They will be good with the Greatspear, which is an excellent weapon for multi-marking even when opponents are 3 squares apart, by divine challenging one that's adjacent and ardent striking one that's two squares away, not to mention they get around mobility issues with teleport.</p><p></p><p>For Dwarf, I wouldn't make a dwarf sorcerer before, but now a dwarf Dragon or Cosmic Sorcerer sounds like it might work even if not optimal.</p><p></p><p>Halflings now have the door open for shielding swordmage. Picking mostly implement powers, you don't really rely on your weapon damage, so using a shortsword isn't a problem.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mengu, post: 5312485, member: 65726"] I think these optional stats not only create new "perfect combos" but also make more classes "workable" for a race. For instance, I wouldn't really dream of playing an elf warlock before, but now it's workable, since I can sink an 18 into Charisma or Con, and after racial modifiers end up with a 16 Intelligence giving decent riders and AC, and 13 dexterity, which is sufficiently high for Dual implement. Similarly, an Eladrin Paladin was in no way an option, but now the Charisma bonus makes it a reasonable option for a paladin who won't actually suck at religion. They will be good with the Greatspear, which is an excellent weapon for multi-marking even when opponents are 3 squares apart, by divine challenging one that's adjacent and ardent striking one that's two squares away, not to mention they get around mobility issues with teleport. For Dwarf, I wouldn't make a dwarf sorcerer before, but now a dwarf Dragon or Cosmic Sorcerer sounds like it might work even if not optimal. Halflings now have the door open for shielding swordmage. Picking mostly implement powers, you don't really rely on your weapon damage, so using a shortsword isn't a problem. [/QUOTE]
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