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<blockquote data-quote="DaveDash" data-source="post: 6539436" data-attributes="member: 6786202">Because you play this game as a group, you don't play it individually to see who can do the most pew pew. What you are describing is what I said originally, that the Wizard is the most useful class overall. Yes monsters enemy NPCs can attempt to do this and that, but a high level party that has such a damage machine with them (remember his AT WILL damage is as high as your best spells) will work together to enable him to continue fighting, with counter spells, dispels, buffs, whatever.The Wizard in my game hasn't bothered wasting the time and cost on Simulacrum for reasons I have stated. He has the gold for it, but it will probably last one fight (if that). If he cast Simulacrum on the Paladin for example, it would have about 60 hit points. That's not enough to survive very long, considering the average DPR of a creature at this level is around 100. Not worth it for 1500 GP and 8 hours casting time.Summoning a Goristro is also pretty worthless as it will be banished pretty quickly by enemy spell casters (+2 saving throw won't help it even with magic resistance). At this level they're fighting casters with high DC's. It's also huge and they're in the underdark, so there's a lot of places it won't fit. Yeah you'd get some fun out of it, but it's not a viable long term strategy for them.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="DaveDash, post: 6539436, member: 6786202"] [I] Because you play this game as a group, you don't play it individually to see who can do the most pew pew. What you are describing is what I said originally, that the Wizard is the most useful class overall. Yes monsters enemy NPCs can attempt to do this and that, but a high level party that has such a damage machine with them (remember his AT WILL damage is as high as your best spells) will work together to enable him to continue fighting, with counter spells, dispels, buffs, whatever. The Wizard in my game hasn't bothered wasting the time and cost on Simulacrum for reasons I have stated. He has the gold for it, but it will probably last one fight (if that). If he cast Simulacrum on the Paladin for example, it would have about 60 hit points. That's not enough to survive very long, considering the average DPR of a creature at this level is around 100. Not worth it for 1500 GP and 8 hours casting time. Summoning a Goristro is also pretty worthless as it will be banished pretty quickly by enemy spell casters (+2 saving throw won't help it even with magic resistance). At this level they're fighting casters with high DC's. It's also huge and they're in the underdark, so there's a lot of places it won't fit. Yeah you'd get some fun out of it, but it's not a viable long term strategy for them.[/i] [/QUOTE]

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