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Message: <blockquote data-quote="mneme" data-source="post: 5109970" data-attributes="member: 59248">True, though I was lowballing the damage somewhat (I didn't have a crit line at all, for example).  This one doesn't actually give you infinite [I don't buy the "never gets resolved" bit; if you know the result is infinite and the DM doesn't disallow it...it's infinite; you don't just delay the game] as I don't know of any way to auto-reroll 3s and not including the basic stuff that can give another pile of d6s and such added to your damage (which also get the force-max and auto-reroll feature).Mostly, I think it's really hard to get a single-attack nova anywhere near the multiple-attack novas you get out of, say, the 5 attack Ranger D29.  This says a lot more about the issue with stacking modifiers/vulnerabilities and multiple attacks than it does about how "weak" single attack novas are -- but getting average weapon die damage of 30 per W is still pretty strong.Vorpal works really weirdly with brutal/Ancient Forebears(I don't buy the argument that AF "changing" the roll doesn't actually change what you rolled) -- Normally, you still do better with vorpal with a higher W.  But die manipulation changes a lot.  With AF+Vorpal, a d3 is infinite, a d4 is 15, a d5 is over 10, a d6 is slightly under 10, a d7 is 9.7 -- at which point the die's size is large enough relative to the number of auto-rerolls that weapon damage starts going up again as the W increases.</blockquote>