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<blockquote data-quote="aco175" data-source="post: 9119829" data-attributes="member: 27385">One of the things I seem to have taken away is that we do not need some of the classes anymore.&nbsp; Most of the layers of restriction and exclusion have been stripped or modified enough to make a class like ranger not needed.&nbsp; No wonder there were so many threads about them not having a home or just sucking altogether.&nbsp; They may have fit into a niche, but remove the restriction from other filling that niche and now what.&nbsp; Although we seem to want to make more classes and not less.&nbsp; That urge to find a design hole one thinks is needed or wanted seems big enough to keep having more classes.&nbsp; Sorcerer and warlock may have been new and cool in the past editions, but are they just meh in 5e?&nbsp; People at my table do not take them, but I see warlock getting a lot of love on this site.&nbsp; I need more classes since multi-class rules suck is another thing I hear.&nbsp; I need a class that does fighter/wizard without spending the time or being half a caster when we hit 11th level.&nbsp; Like Magic cards and power creep when nobody wants to give up lightning bolt for one fire mana when that 2-damage card came out to replace it.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="aco175, post: 9119829, member: 27385"] One of the things I seem to have taken away is that we do not need some of the classes anymore. Most of the layers of restriction and exclusion have been stripped or modified enough to make a class like ranger not needed. No wonder there were so many threads about them not having a home or just sucking altogether. They may have fit into a niche, but remove the restriction from other filling that niche and now what. Although we seem to want to make more classes and not less. That urge to find a design hole one thinks is needed or wanted seems big enough to keep having more classes. Sorcerer and warlock may have been new and cool in the past editions, but are they just meh in 5e? People at my table do not take them, but I see warlock getting a lot of love on this site. I need more classes since multi-class rules suck is another thing I hear. I need a class that does fighter/wizard without spending the time or being half a caster when we hit 11th level. Like Magic cards and power creep when nobody wants to give up lightning bolt for one fire mana when that 2-damage card came out to replace it. [/QUOTE]

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