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<blockquote data-quote="Henry" data-source="post: 3904580" data-attributes="member: 158"><p>My biggest problem with it is one of convenience. This is the first time in the history of D&D that I don't feel comfortable with turning absolutely everything in the PHB loose with the players, and that I couldn't find everything in the PHB usable in almost any D&D campaign I'd choose to run. The PHB will be sufficiently "non-vanilla" that I feel like I'll have to have a list saying, "you can't use <u>this</u>, <u>this</u>, and <u>this</u> in my new campaign" instead of saying, <em>"you can use the PHB, and these parts of the following supplement books."</em></p><p></p><p>If dragons only fit a theme of being evil creatures, or that they're rare beings who never had much contact with the common races, or "no one has ever seen a dragon", then I've got to eliminate Dragonborn as a PHB choice. For me, it's a problem of having to be exclusive, rather than inclusive. One could probably make the point with ANY race or class in any previous PHB, but it's the first time for me that it's been a problem. Dragonborn are "just fantastic enough" that they cause a few problems, if they are indeed the spawn of dragons and have draconic powers, rather than being dressed-up lizardmen.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Not me for darned sure. I'm a lover of half-orcs and orcs (eeewww!) since AD&D, and having full orcs as a race would not be very far off the previous D&D beaten path. But then, that's why the mystery race wasn't orcs or half-orcs - they want to forge new ground.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Old fan of Dragonlance, so minotaurs are cool. Drow? Given the number of misunderstood good drow PCs floating around in D&D-land, I doubt they would have caused much upset. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That, I agree. No choice would have been, <strong>"BRILLIANT!!!!"</strong> from all corners.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Henry, post: 3904580, member: 158"] My biggest problem with it is one of convenience. This is the first time in the history of D&D that I don't feel comfortable with turning absolutely everything in the PHB loose with the players, and that I couldn't find everything in the PHB usable in almost any D&D campaign I'd choose to run. The PHB will be sufficiently "non-vanilla" that I feel like I'll have to have a list saying, "you can't use [U]this[/U], [U]this[/U], and [U]this[/U] in my new campaign" instead of saying, [I]"you can use the PHB, and these parts of the following supplement books."[/I] If dragons only fit a theme of being evil creatures, or that they're rare beings who never had much contact with the common races, or "no one has ever seen a dragon", then I've got to eliminate Dragonborn as a PHB choice. For me, it's a problem of having to be exclusive, rather than inclusive. One could probably make the point with ANY race or class in any previous PHB, but it's the first time for me that it's been a problem. Dragonborn are "just fantastic enough" that they cause a few problems, if they are indeed the spawn of dragons and have draconic powers, rather than being dressed-up lizardmen. Not me for darned sure. I'm a lover of half-orcs and orcs (eeewww!) since AD&D, and having full orcs as a race would not be very far off the previous D&D beaten path. But then, that's why the mystery race wasn't orcs or half-orcs - they want to forge new ground. Old fan of Dragonlance, so minotaurs are cool. Drow? Given the number of misunderstood good drow PCs floating around in D&D-land, I doubt they would have caused much upset. ;) That, I agree. No choice would have been, [B]"BRILLIANT!!!!"[/B] from all corners. [/QUOTE]
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