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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Voss" data-source="post: 3910610" data-attributes="member: 57593">Uhhuh. 3 swords they happen to just pick up, and they each essentially use them once. The trolls died by being stupid. And sunlight and trickery. In S&S the heroes would have already had swords, and there would have been much lopping of limbs.The dragon dies to a single arrow.  By someone else. While the heroes are hiding.  *that*, more than anything else, is not sword and sorcery.Almost all violence happens off camera.  In S&S its front and center.A non-rogue steals a grand total of two pieces of treasure, (if by steal you mean picks it off the ground when no one is looking) and fails at pick pocketing.  He mostly steals food.  And leftovers at that.No.  No you couldn't.  You can explain this if you want, but I really don't see any correlation between any of these characters, and I'm familiar with them all.  An apprentice wizard turned thief with an eye for death, jewels and whores isn't anything like a well-to-do country gentleman who's never worked a day in his life, and essentially lives off his family's money. There is NO sex.  Because there are NO women.  Even if you go to LOTR, there are... 3? And Arwen is barely even implied.What ruins get looted?  The troll's treasure is stuffed in a nearby cave, and its the dwarves' home.  A lot of romance and a lot of begat-ing, but not sex.  Theres a big difference between picking up a whore or a slave girl and romance/marriage/children.Aragorn is a royal heir who is wandering the wilderness to avoid his destiny, doesn't romance a practically non existant character (does not, in fact, even speak to her at any point in the actual text.  They get married and continue the royal line of Gondor, yay, the passion.), doesn't kill any undead, but yes, is a good tracker. Sauron isn't, but sadly a generic dark lord isn't out of place in any fantasy anymore.  Gandalf gets nicked more than anything else in LOTR, but really wouldn't fit in Elric.  Except as Yet Another Victim for Stormbringer.  He certainly doesn't have in place alongside Conan, isn't creepy enough to mentor the Grey Mouser.These genres are really very different.  The Fight for the Loot is very different from The Quest.</blockquote>

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