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<blockquote data-quote="steeldragons" data-source="post: 5405212" data-attributes="member: 92511">&amp;#Q^@*$#&amp;^$@!!!!!!I had a big ole response and enworld fraggin' &quot;timed out&quot;!!!! DAMMIT!Well, editing is the better part of valor, right? Or something like that.So, short version:I have a biiiig problem believing that the &quot;good&quot; army that defeated the big bad vamp lord and set up the Pale Lands gave the vampires a &quot;crop of humans &amp; demihumans&quot;...to the ruling vamp sons who are conflicted about being vampires in the first place...huh?!<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f615.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":confused:" title="Confused&nbsp; &nbsp; :confused:"&nbsp; data-smilie="5"data-shortname=":confused:" />Women? Resulting children? How is this &quot;crop&quot; maintained? I would suspect the more savage of the vamps/those not loyal to the ruling sons would have eaten their way through their &quot;food&quot; reserves fairly quickly.Terrain-wise, I would say it was a mountainous region with little arable lands. Some valleys that could sustain minor farming, but that's about it. Also a problem/difficult to keep the mortal population fed and alive...and that doesn't even scratch the surface of the fact that the humans/demihumans would almost universally REFUSE to mate to make more &quot;food&quot; for the vamps.As for the terrain, you need to further define the Barrier/Veiling. Is there day and night in the Pale Lands? Or just a sort of perpetual night that brightens to no more than a twilight...so the vamps can exist on a &quot;regular&quot; schedule with the rest of the populace (if there is other populace left after the millienia)? Depending on the answer, you'd have to consider how the vampires protect themselves in the &quot;daylight&quot; hours from their servants/slaves/&quot;food&quot;.I'd recommend an &quot;Underworld&quot; scenario where the vampires breed a class/caste of thrall/overlords/day time protectors. Not werewolves, per se (that'd be a liiiittle too hacky for my tastes) but some vicious-but-sentient creature that could maintain order in the daytime...if there is a daytime.So...thoughts on any of that...and then I might (am sure I'll) have more ideas.--Steel Dragons</blockquote>

[QUOTE="steeldragons, post: 5405212, member: 92511"] &#Q^@*$#&^$@!!!!!! I had a big ole response and enworld fraggin' "timed out"!!!! DAMMIT! Well, editing is the better part of valor, right? Or something like that. So, short version: I have a biiiig problem believing that the "good" army that defeated the big bad vamp lord and set up the Pale Lands gave the vampires a "crop of humans & demihumans"...to the ruling vamp sons who are conflicted about being vampires in the first place...huh?!:confused: Women? Resulting children? How is this "crop" maintained? I would suspect the more savage of the vamps/those not loyal to the ruling sons would have eaten their way through their "food" reserves fairly quickly. Terrain-wise, I would say it was a mountainous region with little arable lands. Some valleys that could sustain minor farming, but that's about it. Also a problem/difficult to keep the mortal population fed and alive...and that doesn't even scratch the surface of the fact that the humans/demihumans would almost universally REFUSE to mate to make more "food" for the vamps. As for the terrain, you need to further define the Barrier/Veiling. Is there day and night in the Pale Lands? Or just a sort of perpetual night that brightens to no more than a twilight...so the vamps can exist on a "regular" schedule with the rest of the populace (if there is other populace left after the millienia)? Depending on the answer, you'd have to consider how the vampires protect themselves in the "daylight" hours from their servants/slaves/"food". I'd recommend an "Underworld" scenario where the vampires breed a class/caste of thrall/overlords/day time protectors. Not werewolves, per se (that'd be a liiiittle too hacky for my tastes) but some vicious-but-sentient creature that could maintain order in the daytime...if there [I]is[/I] a daytime. So...thoughts on any of that...and then I might (am sure I'll) have more ideas. --Steel Dragons [/QUOTE]

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