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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Technik4" data-source="post: 3394445" data-attributes="member: 7211">Crazy. It's silly to try and tell people you don't read books and therefore don't have any knowledge of what capabilities items and monsters have and then in the same post outline how certain items have no applicability against certain monsters' special attacks.This isn't a thread arguing about your ability (or lack thereof) to roleplay, it's about magical items. Some people want a campaign where they may only have 1 magic item by level 10. It's true. The fact that you were in such a campaign and didn't properly convey to the DM that you were unhappy is your problem, not 3rd edition's. Other people want campaigns where they have the amount of wealth outlined by the DM when they hit each level, and the ability to barter/trade/sell/create an item build to their specifications. When they whine, it is not the books (and the guidelines in the books) that are the problem, its the expectations the player may have after reading said books. There's a good reason the wealth by level chart is in the DMG, not the PHB (along with Prestige Classes).The system can handle both situations, but the first (low magical item distribution with limited access to 'magical shops') puts the onus of Challenge balancing even more on the DM than usual. A rule can't be created to make everyone happy - it takes everyone present and their willingness to compromise for that to happen. If you and your DM can't find common ground, find a new DM.I think you can see what Andy Collins is talking about if you take a look at any of the 'notable' NPCs found in campaign sourcebooks (like FRCS, Eberron, etc). Rarely will such characters have narrow items (owl figurines), and almost always will they have magical weapons and armor, and a few potions. This is so that if a DM picks them from the book for a fight, they're ready to go (generally speaking).Much like Mr Cook outlined on his site with regards to spells (that certain spell effects are balanced many times per day, but others should be picked each day and then used up) the item balancing needs a deep analysis. In one sense a magical item that lets you teleport three times per day is powerful. But, no one is going to feel that way until they are happy with their basic gear for their level (ie- a 10th level barbarian whose sole item is a Cloak of Teleportation will not be too powerful, especially against foes with DR). The whole structure of loot (beyond rule 0 of course, DMs should always have the right to distribute as they see fit) needs to be restructured to better reflect what it means to be a certain level.</blockquote>

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