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Andy Collins: "Most Magic Items in D&D Are Awful"
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<blockquote data-quote="Ralts Bloodthorne" data-source="post: 3394458" data-attributes="member: 6390"><p>So, since I play in pretty non-convetional settings/games, explain something to me:</p><p></p><p>Your characters all have to toe some invisible line on wealth? You have this glass cieling, right? And ALL of it goes in for magic items, whether or not they are useful? If you meet a certian wealth, a red dragon is suddenly a viable opponent?</p><p></p><p>What's he doing, running credit checks on characters before attacking them?</p><p></p><p>"Is that Gorgo the Destroyer with one O or two?"</p><p></p><p></p><p>I thought the wealth by level for for creating a high level NPC, as a rough guide. It's in the NPC section, isn't it for the NPC's?</p><p></p><p>Do characters really have to abide by this wealth by level table? What about investing in a stronghold or manor? What about spreading around the juice to bribe officials, to make contacts, to outright OWN a member of the King's Military Procurement Board?</p><p></p><p>Is all of that taken into acoount? Did the $5K spent on bribing officials to allow the Necromancer to keep tabs on every corpse coming through the Grand Mortuary count toward this total wealth?</p><p></p><p>Is that ALL the wealth the PC's are supposed to be able to gain by that level?</p><p></p><p>I'll admit, I ignore the wealth by level for the PC's, and use it when making the basic NPC's, but you mean to tell me that people seem to think that the wealth table applies to PC's?</p><p></p><p>If so, then were is the NPC wealth by level? You can't tell me that Jongo the 10th level Commoner should even have CLOSE to the wealth of Gorgo the 10th Level fighter.</p><p></p><p>Jongo hasn't braved crypts, Gorgo hasn't had to give 80% of his income and harvest to Lord Imadoofus.</p><p></p><p>Trying to put wealth by level <strong>restrictions</strong> is ridiculous.</p><p></p><p>You're trying to tell me that a 10th level commoner should have the same wealth as a 10th level aristocrat, and both of them should be equal in wealth to a 10th level fighter who has braved the unknown and looted forgotten tombs.</p><p></p><p>And when you look at it like that, it's just plain stupid.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ralts Bloodthorne, post: 3394458, member: 6390"] So, since I play in pretty non-convetional settings/games, explain something to me: Your characters all have to toe some invisible line on wealth? You have this glass cieling, right? And ALL of it goes in for magic items, whether or not they are useful? If you meet a certian wealth, a red dragon is suddenly a viable opponent? What's he doing, running credit checks on characters before attacking them? "Is that Gorgo the Destroyer with one O or two?" I thought the wealth by level for for creating a high level NPC, as a rough guide. It's in the NPC section, isn't it for the NPC's? Do characters really have to abide by this wealth by level table? What about investing in a stronghold or manor? What about spreading around the juice to bribe officials, to make contacts, to outright OWN a member of the King's Military Procurement Board? Is all of that taken into acoount? Did the $5K spent on bribing officials to allow the Necromancer to keep tabs on every corpse coming through the Grand Mortuary count toward this total wealth? Is that ALL the wealth the PC's are supposed to be able to gain by that level? I'll admit, I ignore the wealth by level for the PC's, and use it when making the basic NPC's, but you mean to tell me that people seem to think that the wealth table applies to PC's? If so, then were is the NPC wealth by level? You can't tell me that Jongo the 10th level Commoner should even have CLOSE to the wealth of Gorgo the 10th Level fighter. Jongo hasn't braved crypts, Gorgo hasn't had to give 80% of his income and harvest to Lord Imadoofus. Trying to put wealth by level [b]restrictions[/b] is ridiculous. You're trying to tell me that a 10th level commoner should have the same wealth as a 10th level aristocrat, and both of them should be equal in wealth to a 10th level fighter who has braved the unknown and looted forgotten tombs. And when you look at it like that, it's just plain stupid. [/QUOTE]
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