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Message: <blockquote data-quote="GoodKingJayIII" data-source="post: 3396764" data-attributes="member: 13804">First of all, I'm not sure that I ever talked about the quality of the DM.  That is a different subject, and one that never entered into my mind nor that has anything to do with the topic at hand.  I think maybe I was a little unclear, but I also think you were reading something that wasn't there.When I said "no one's game is better than another" I meant "No one's preferred play style is better than another."  I don't think you considered my comment in the context of the statement directly above it:  the implied idea that less magic items equal a more mature, interesting, or challenging game.  That simply can't be true, because it's a matter of preference and opinion. If you think that's an absurd notion... well, I can't continue to have this conversation with you.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> Secondly, you seem to think I was talking about you.  I wasn't.   <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> There are a number of people who voiced that general opinion in this thread.  I don't have to name names; to me, it's clear as day who does and doesn't think that.  But I realize that's my opinion and I'm not intending to insult people or start a flame war.Now, on to your points:I agree, except the about the last part, not necessarily the means that they want.  If you're not giving your players what they want, why would they keep playing in your game.  I'm not saying you should acquiesce to every little demand, but DnD is a cooperative game.  It's not an "all-or-nothing" environment.  DMs and players have to meet in the middle.  Since DMs have to be the judge during the game, almost all of this should be hammered out before a session or campaign.  When I DM it's important to me to cater to my players as well as run the game I want.Again, I agree.  We seem to be on mostly the same page.  What are we arguing about again?  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue    :p"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /></blockquote>

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