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<blockquote data-quote="Panda-s1" data-source="post: 8030026" data-attributes="member: 59554"><p>I mean, I do appreciate you actually went and asked people who might be affected by the stuff presented in OA what their opinions were. this is certainly better than using weirdly broad statements like most Asians don't care to dismiss anything Kwan has said.</p><p></p><p>though if it's true that those people are some of the few Asian people credited in an official D&D publication then I find that very sad. it's sad that a book called "Oriental Adventures" with some dated and bad stereotypes of Asian culture is the only time D&D had any noticeable input by the actual people the book is supposed to be about. there should be more Asian creators (well creators all colors really) involved in D&D, and not just when they need to make an Asian fantasy product.</p><p></p><p>also speaking of Kwan, I think it needs to be reiterated: no matter what you make of his opinion on OA, I still feel his argument about removal is true: it's hypocritical for WotC to say they're going to be more culturally sensitive but still sell a book like that for profit.</p><p></p><p>EDIT: I forgot to mention, those people listed <em>all </em>have Japanese names. it feels like TSR kinda just half-assed their attempt at getting advice from actual Asian experts and only got consultation on the Japanese portion of the book, and I <em>hope to god </em>none of those are aliases of "experts" on Japanese culture. I'm certain they could have at least done the same for getting advice on Chinese culture. I know they list a bibliography of sources in the book, but... idk older Western books about East Asia also tend to have weird and dated ideas about cultures as well. I also have to think about the more obscure cultures they bring up in this book probably don't have a good foundation, like Vietnam? considering it's history with the west and the fact it was virtually cut off with the rest of the world at the time I can only imagine the books available to them were 1) scant and 2) not great.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Panda-s1, post: 8030026, member: 59554"] I mean, I do appreciate you actually went and asked people who might be affected by the stuff presented in OA what their opinions were. this is certainly better than using weirdly broad statements like most Asians don't care to dismiss anything Kwan has said. though if it's true that those people are some of the few Asian people credited in an official D&D publication then I find that very sad. it's sad that a book called "Oriental Adventures" with some dated and bad stereotypes of Asian culture is the only time D&D had any noticeable input by the actual people the book is supposed to be about. there should be more Asian creators (well creators all colors really) involved in D&D, and not just when they need to make an Asian fantasy product. also speaking of Kwan, I think it needs to be reiterated: no matter what you make of his opinion on OA, I still feel his argument about removal is true: it's hypocritical for WotC to say they're going to be more culturally sensitive but still sell a book like that for profit. EDIT: I forgot to mention, those people listed [I]all [/I]have Japanese names. it feels like TSR kinda just half-assed their attempt at getting advice from actual Asian experts and only got consultation on the Japanese portion of the book, and I [I]hope to god [/I]none of those are aliases of "experts" on Japanese culture. I'm certain they could have at least done the same for getting advice on Chinese culture. I know they list a bibliography of sources in the book, but... idk older Western books about East Asia also tend to have weird and dated ideas about cultures as well. I also have to think about the more obscure cultures they bring up in this book probably don't have a good foundation, like Vietnam? considering it's history with the west and the fact it was virtually cut off with the rest of the world at the time I can only imagine the books available to them were 1) scant and 2) not great. [/QUOTE]
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