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<blockquote data-quote="Panda-s1" data-source="post: 8030677" data-attributes="member: 59554"><p>okay, again, you can't just say "this Asian person isn't offended!" and then pretend this is some sort of gray area. let's unpack this article:</p><p></p><p>okay first line and we're already off to a bad start.</p><p></p><p>you don't have to be called something insultingly for that something to be a problem. language can be racist even if it's not a slur. there's a certain scientific term that was used to refer to black people that's now considered incredibly offensive, but I don't think I've ever heard of people hurling that word at black people to disparage them. I'm not sure if the Asian equivalent term was used as an insult either OH WAIT</p><p></p><p>okay last I checked I can buy a book called Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting, not Occidental Adventures, but sure.</p><p></p><p></p><p>yes, exactly, "Oriental" is a dated term that carries a lot of racist baggage. we already say Asian or East Asian (also Southeast Asian) so it's not like dropping it is a radical idea either.</p><p></p><p>oh right, I forgot, we're just being too sensitive <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" alt="🙄" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f644.png" title="Face with rolling eyes :rolling_eyes:" data-shortname=":rolling_eyes:" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" /></p><p></p><p>this hasn't aged well</p><p></p><p>yeah, this happens all the time. it also happens when things get updated and replaced, it's disingenuous to paint a picture of wasting "millions of dollars" to replace stuff you were probably going to replace anyway, it's not an enormous undertaking to replace "Oriental" with "East Asian" while you're at it. "but what about branding?" same with branding, people change brand identities and advertising strategies all the time, this is probably especially the case with alternative medicine as opinions can shift drastically over time. </p><p></p><p>and she ends with a red herring. hmm.</p><p></p><p>I had to look up who Jayne Tsuchiyama was and her practice is now labelled as "Eastern medicine", and I'm not sure she's entirely aware of anti-Asian racism in this country. she's not exactly a prominent voice in the Asian American community, but that's not the real issue I guess.</p><p></p><p>look, if East Asian people aren't a hive mind (and clearly we're not) you can still do better than taking a neutral stance and letting the status quo continue. you can educate yourself about Asian American history (especially the history of the mid to late 20th century) and maybe you can understand why you shouldn't just take a neutral stance because this one Asian person thought it was okay.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Panda-s1, post: 8030677, member: 59554"] okay, again, you can't just say "this Asian person isn't offended!" and then pretend this is some sort of gray area. let's unpack this article: okay first line and we're already off to a bad start. you don't have to be called something insultingly for that something to be a problem. language can be racist even if it's not a slur. there's a certain scientific term that was used to refer to black people that's now considered incredibly offensive, but I don't think I've ever heard of people hurling that word at black people to disparage them. I'm not sure if the Asian equivalent term was used as an insult either OH WAIT okay last I checked I can buy a book called Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting, not Occidental Adventures, but sure. yes, exactly, "Oriental" is a dated term that carries a lot of racist baggage. we already say Asian or East Asian (also Southeast Asian) so it's not like dropping it is a radical idea either. oh right, I forgot, we're just being too sensitive 🙄 this hasn't aged well yeah, this happens all the time. it also happens when things get updated and replaced, it's disingenuous to paint a picture of wasting "millions of dollars" to replace stuff you were probably going to replace anyway, it's not an enormous undertaking to replace "Oriental" with "East Asian" while you're at it. "but what about branding?" same with branding, people change brand identities and advertising strategies all the time, this is probably especially the case with alternative medicine as opinions can shift drastically over time. and she ends with a red herring. hmm. I had to look up who Jayne Tsuchiyama was and her practice is now labelled as "Eastern medicine", and I'm not sure she's entirely aware of anti-Asian racism in this country. she's not exactly a prominent voice in the Asian American community, but that's not the real issue I guess. look, if East Asian people aren't a hive mind (and clearly we're not) you can still do better than taking a neutral stance and letting the status quo continue. you can educate yourself about Asian American history (especially the history of the mid to late 20th century) and maybe you can understand why you shouldn't just take a neutral stance because this one Asian person thought it was okay. [/QUOTE]
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