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<blockquote data-quote="Dire Bare" data-source="post: 8030901" data-attributes="member: 18182"><p>I'm assuming you are referencing the "Asians Read" series on the <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC72SWZ0tamtQeiQMn11YGOA" target="_blank">"Asians Represent Podcast"</a> channel on YouTube. It's definitely a hefty time commitment if you want to take it all in, with over a dozen episodes on 1E "Oriental Adventures" alone with each episode clocking in at roughly 2 hours. The channel has also done some similar videos on 3E "Oriental Adventures" and some Legends of the 5 Rings books.</p><p></p><p>I couldn't get through the entire series, not due to any problems with the videos or commentary themselves, just that I don't have that kind of attention span. It's a lot to take in. The two main commentators, Daniel Kwan and "DM Steve" (not sure of last name) tend to ramble a lot (common in podcasts generally) and they take each book critiqued one paragraph at a time . . . . I would LOVE if these two guys produced a "summary" video on their opinions on the book, I'd watch that all the way through!!!</p><p></p><p>I'm really glad this content is out there and as I jumped around the first couple of episodes that focused on the races and classes in OA I appreciated hearing their opinions. It helped open my eyes and clarify my own thoughts and opinions on the book. It's worth checking out, even if like me you can't sit through two hours of rambling commentary on several pages . . .</p><p></p><p>I'm increasingly sad at the voices here on ENWorld who are dead set on dismissing and silencing the opinions of Asian Americans and Asian American gamers in order to hold onto their nostalgia for harmful, orientalist takes on Asian culture and mythology. Not all Asian Americans and Asians agree on what is and isn't harmful and offensive, heck, the various commentators on the "Asians Read" videos don't all agree on various points . . . . but it's clear that the book is highly problematic in how it treats Asian cultures.</p><p></p><p>I would love to hear more Asian American voices on this issue, so thanks to the OP of this thread for adding to that!</p><p></p><p>The video commentary in this series isn't perfect. The commentators leap to some conclusions due to their own lack of expertise on D&D itself and Asian mythology. That doesn't invalidate their opinions on the book in any way, but it was a bit frustrating. That's also not to say they aren't familiar with the game, or mythology. Both are nerds and well versed in American pop culture, both are D&D gamers, and both have academic expertise in culture and Asian studies, not that you need any of that to understand the problems in this book or to have an opinion on it.</p><p></p><p>It got me started in researching the origins of various "oriental" D&D races and creatures . . . and I found even more problems that those brought up in the podcast series!!! Trying to update OA in a respectful, sensitive, and somewhat accurate manner is going to be a HUGE task for whomever decides to take it on . . . .</p><p></p><p><em>EDIT: To add . . . . DM Steve goes out of his way to try and find the positive in 1E OA . . . and both he and Kwan find them! Neither commentator find the book all bad . . . just highly problematic and overall not a positive representation of Asian cultures for the D&D game.</em></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dire Bare, post: 8030901, member: 18182"] I'm assuming you are referencing the "Asians Read" series on the [URL='https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC72SWZ0tamtQeiQMn11YGOA']"Asians Represent Podcast"[/URL] channel on YouTube. It's definitely a hefty time commitment if you want to take it all in, with over a dozen episodes on 1E "Oriental Adventures" alone with each episode clocking in at roughly 2 hours. The channel has also done some similar videos on 3E "Oriental Adventures" and some Legends of the 5 Rings books. I couldn't get through the entire series, not due to any problems with the videos or commentary themselves, just that I don't have that kind of attention span. It's a lot to take in. The two main commentators, Daniel Kwan and "DM Steve" (not sure of last name) tend to ramble a lot (common in podcasts generally) and they take each book critiqued one paragraph at a time . . . . I would LOVE if these two guys produced a "summary" video on their opinions on the book, I'd watch that all the way through!!! I'm really glad this content is out there and as I jumped around the first couple of episodes that focused on the races and classes in OA I appreciated hearing their opinions. It helped open my eyes and clarify my own thoughts and opinions on the book. It's worth checking out, even if like me you can't sit through two hours of rambling commentary on several pages . . . I'm increasingly sad at the voices here on ENWorld who are dead set on dismissing and silencing the opinions of Asian Americans and Asian American gamers in order to hold onto their nostalgia for harmful, orientalist takes on Asian culture and mythology. Not all Asian Americans and Asians agree on what is and isn't harmful and offensive, heck, the various commentators on the "Asians Read" videos don't all agree on various points . . . . but it's clear that the book is highly problematic in how it treats Asian cultures. I would love to hear more Asian American voices on this issue, so thanks to the OP of this thread for adding to that! The video commentary in this series isn't perfect. The commentators leap to some conclusions due to their own lack of expertise on D&D itself and Asian mythology. That doesn't invalidate their opinions on the book in any way, but it was a bit frustrating. That's also not to say they aren't familiar with the game, or mythology. Both are nerds and well versed in American pop culture, both are D&D gamers, and both have academic expertise in culture and Asian studies, not that you need any of that to understand the problems in this book or to have an opinion on it. It got me started in researching the origins of various "oriental" D&D races and creatures . . . and I found even more problems that those brought up in the podcast series!!! Trying to update OA in a respectful, sensitive, and somewhat accurate manner is going to be a HUGE task for whomever decides to take it on . . . . [I]EDIT: To add . . . . DM Steve goes out of his way to try and find the positive in 1E OA . . . and both he and Kwan find them! Neither commentator find the book all bad . . . just highly problematic and overall not a positive representation of Asian cultures for the D&D game.[/I] [/QUOTE]
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