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<blockquote data-quote="Bedrockgames" data-source="post: 8031747" data-attributes="member: 85555"><p>Because people want to have access to it and a person objecting to it on moral grounds shouldn't prevent other people from making the choice themselves about the book. And it is a part of D&D history. And it is a supplement many people find useful. Are there other books out there that are better by today's standards to many? Sure. It is perfectly fine to have more options though, and the 1E version provides a pastiche setting that is fully compatible with 1E and 1E retroclones (so it has use for plenty of people). Personally I don't run 1E any more but I do like reading my 1E books. And I probably will do a 1E D&D campaign again in the near future (Oriental Adventures might make an appearance in it in some form). I am not saying it is a perfect book, and I am not saying there are not problems with it. But I think it is much better to allow people to make the call for themselves whether it is okay for them to own. I certainly don't want people who use twitter to put pressure on game companies to be the ones deciding what I have access to.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>A lot of people recently bought it on principle because they were worried it was coming down. I think that is a good thing. People were trying to send a message to WOTC. On the other hand, just because some people only bought it recently due to the controversy surrounding it, doesn't mean there are not people who still use it (I know plenty of 1E GMs who make regular use of it). </p><p></p><p>Again, I am not saying you have to like this book. I said earlier, I watched the video critiques of it, and there were some criticisms I agreed with, some I didn't. I just didn't think the criticisms warranted the book being taken down. People have already engaged a lot of the specific critiques, but I will say this. I like to run wuxia a lot. And I would definitely say if you are looking for some kind of authentic and nuanced depiction of that sort of thing (or any variety of asian inspired setting) Oriental Adventures isn't that. I've cobbled together more authentic wuxia campaigns using the 1E and 3E OA campaign books over the years (as well as using other systems, and one of my own), so I still found plenty of utility in them even when I was trying to run something more authentic than what OA offers. But I don't think authentic is a requirement. There is plenty of fun to be had in pastiche settings that are a little off the wall, and not true to the source material. It depends on what you want. I don't object to you not liking it, or taking issue with it. What I object to is you deciding for other people whether they should have access to the book, when WOTC was happy to publish for people in PDF form on Drivethru. I don't think that is an unreasonable position to take</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bedrockgames, post: 8031747, member: 85555"] Because people want to have access to it and a person objecting to it on moral grounds shouldn't prevent other people from making the choice themselves about the book. And it is a part of D&D history. And it is a supplement many people find useful. Are there other books out there that are better by today's standards to many? Sure. It is perfectly fine to have more options though, and the 1E version provides a pastiche setting that is fully compatible with 1E and 1E retroclones (so it has use for plenty of people). Personally I don't run 1E any more but I do like reading my 1E books. And I probably will do a 1E D&D campaign again in the near future (Oriental Adventures might make an appearance in it in some form). I am not saying it is a perfect book, and I am not saying there are not problems with it. But I think it is much better to allow people to make the call for themselves whether it is okay for them to own. I certainly don't want people who use twitter to put pressure on game companies to be the ones deciding what I have access to. A lot of people recently bought it on principle because they were worried it was coming down. I think that is a good thing. People were trying to send a message to WOTC. On the other hand, just because some people only bought it recently due to the controversy surrounding it, doesn't mean there are not people who still use it (I know plenty of 1E GMs who make regular use of it). Again, I am not saying you have to like this book. I said earlier, I watched the video critiques of it, and there were some criticisms I agreed with, some I didn't. I just didn't think the criticisms warranted the book being taken down. People have already engaged a lot of the specific critiques, but I will say this. I like to run wuxia a lot. And I would definitely say if you are looking for some kind of authentic and nuanced depiction of that sort of thing (or any variety of asian inspired setting) Oriental Adventures isn't that. I've cobbled together more authentic wuxia campaigns using the 1E and 3E OA campaign books over the years (as well as using other systems, and one of my own), so I still found plenty of utility in them even when I was trying to run something more authentic than what OA offers. But I don't think authentic is a requirement. There is plenty of fun to be had in pastiche settings that are a little off the wall, and not true to the source material. It depends on what you want. I don't object to you not liking it, or taking issue with it. What I object to is you deciding for other people whether they should have access to the book, when WOTC was happy to publish for people in PDF form on Drivethru. I don't think that is an unreasonable position to take [/QUOTE]
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