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<blockquote data-quote="Snarf Zagyg" data-source="post: 8032051" data-attributes="member: 7023840"><p>This, especially the part I bolded, is nonsense. Are you going to misuse Popper's Paradox too?</p><p></p><p>Adhering to principles of free speech means that you are not in favor of speech that you support; this is such a truism that everyone is familiar with the (incorrect) attribution to Voltaire of "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."</p><p></p><p>Your remarkably twisted formulation is nothing more than the censorious words of those who have always sought to deprive minorities of speech before, twisted around yet again. "Speech I like is good, speech I don't like is bad; therefore speech I like is allowed and promoted, and speech I don't like should be censored"</p><p></p><p>No, thank you. I would rather a million bigots speak out against me and my life than allow you to dictate who gets to speak. This common cause between those who want control is as old as time- the Meese/Dworkin pact.</p><p></p><p>And the reason I can say this, now, is because I have seen how these principles have played out over time. I have seen the positive impact that they have had in my life, and the life of others. I don't want anyone deciding what is, and isn't, appropriate or "good for me," because that is a weapon that is always used for ill.</p><p></p><p>So please, take your good intentions and lectures elsewhere. Don't tell me what speech I need to favor and censor. And don't pretend to speak for the people that have suffered to get us to where we are today.</p><p></p><p>And, for what it's worth, anyone in a position of being able to censor speech is in a position of power, no matter what jargon they are using today.</p><p></p><p>I want my games to be inclusive because that's how it should be, and because I know from personal experience how difficult it was. Because it's the right thing to do. But I don't need to censor bigots to do that; bigotry will be defeated because it's wrong, and people speak out against it. Not because you get to choose what is, and isn't, appropriate speech.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Snarf Zagyg, post: 8032051, member: 7023840"] This, especially the part I bolded, is nonsense. Are you going to misuse Popper's Paradox too? Adhering to principles of free speech means that you are not in favor of speech that you support; this is such a truism that everyone is familiar with the (incorrect) attribution to Voltaire of "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." Your remarkably twisted formulation is nothing more than the censorious words of those who have always sought to deprive minorities of speech before, twisted around yet again. "Speech I like is good, speech I don't like is bad; therefore speech I like is allowed and promoted, and speech I don't like should be censored" No, thank you. I would rather a million bigots speak out against me and my life than allow you to dictate who gets to speak. This common cause between those who want control is as old as time- the Meese/Dworkin pact. And the reason I can say this, now, is because I have seen how these principles have played out over time. I have seen the positive impact that they have had in my life, and the life of others. I don't want anyone deciding what is, and isn't, appropriate or "good for me," because that is a weapon that is always used for ill. So please, take your good intentions and lectures elsewhere. Don't tell me what speech I need to favor and censor. And don't pretend to speak for the people that have suffered to get us to where we are today. And, for what it's worth, anyone in a position of being able to censor speech is in a position of power, no matter what jargon they are using today. I want my games to be inclusive because that's how it should be, and because I know from personal experience how difficult it was. Because it's the right thing to do. But I don't need to censor bigots to do that; bigotry will be defeated because it's wrong, and people speak out against it. Not because you get to choose what is, and isn't, appropriate speech. [/QUOTE]
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