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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Immeril" data-source="post: 8032521" data-attributes="member: 7021408">It was not written question, but I thought that the question that it implied was obvious. By stating that Tolkien based the Orcs on 'repulsive Mongols', I am implying that he held racist beliefs to some extent. And since Tolkien's influence on both the fantasy genre as well as D&D and other RPGs is undeniable, it implies that the problematic content of OA is actually a part of D&D itself: heroes fighting against other civilisations simply because they are/look/act different.So, using your rhetoric, should the Hobbit also be banned or not? And if not, why not? The ideal answer to this question would be one that could be used with any comparison. Because people have different priorities. To some, public domain would be the determining factor. Eric V thinks that there should be a distinction between books/movies and RPGs.Perhaps people are glossing over my statement because I didn't pose it as a question.Perhaps sought only to be disregarded? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />My opinion: the fact that certain posters, who started out denying any racism, are now attempting to relativize the racism means that they were somewhat convinced by some of the counterarguments. Which is what debate is all about.I’d say that this is due to my occupation. I’m not sure if a similar term exists in English legal procedure, but when we write briefs for an appeal to court, we start our arguments with (literal translation) ‘in principal order’, ‘in subordinate order’, ‘in more subordinate order’ and so on. The arguments are sorted according to importance. This sorting means that, even if the judge were to disregard our previous argument, we base our appeal on the current argument. This doesn’t mean that we personally disregard our previous argument.Long story short: I wasn’t changing goal posts, since the discussion is still about removing OA from online stores. I was switching to my next argument, since neither one of us was able to convince the other with their current one.Or video games. If someone thinks playing an Asian or a catholic in an RPG is bad, they should play an MMO. All the guys playing female characters is really cringy.I agree. A character should be praised for its merits, how well it is written or portrayed, not because it is a hero or villain. Anyone who saw Kingsman and thought 'why is the bad guy black and the good guy white?' has deep-rooted issues. Besides, there was a white villain, and guess what? Jackson's character was way more likeable than Caine's.</blockquote>

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