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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Syrsuro" data-source="post: 4450176" data-attributes="member: 58162">Relevant Web Site: <a href="http://www.frontrangefrenzy.com/ridinghorses/how-much-can-a-horse-carry.html" target="_blank">http://www.frontrangefrenzy.com/ridinghorses/how-much-can-a-horse-carry.html</a> Or this: <a href="http://www.horsesring.com/forums/general-discussions/20547-how-much-weight-can-your-horse-safely-carry.html" target="_blank">http://www.horsesring.com/forums/general-discussions/20547-how-much-weight-can-your-horse-safely-carry.html</a> From the latter source:    Moving on, and applying the numbers from the above:  Some have said that the typical heavy war horse was a Percheron: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Percheron" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Percheron</a> , although many more sites say that most destriers were not that large. So lets say that a heavy war horse is a Percheron while smaller warhorses are a slightly smaller (although still very large) breed. (And since 4E doesn't have a 'heavy' warhorse who is to say that we shouldn't be doing all these comparisons to the 3.5 light warhorse.)  The average Percheron weighs around 1,900#s. So lets say 2000. .That would give them a carry weight (by the above web sites) of around 400# (assuming the formula is linear). But a horse more the size of a Friesian horse is probably more correct. An average Friesian horse weighs considerably less (1300 - 1600#) and would have a carry weight (by the above formula) of less than 300#. Another interesting relevant quote: <a href="http://www.bfi.org/?q=node/410" target="_blank">http://www.bfi.org/?q=node/410</a> by Buckminster Fuller (of all people). Note that the weight of a single rider is causing a noticeable loss of mobility. Nevermind what would happen if you put three-four people (720!?) on the back. Or this from Elements of Military Art and Science (H. Wagner Halleck, 1862, p. 149)The point here being that we again see the idea that weight beyond 250-300#s will significantly decrease its speed. Not too far off from the 262# number for the 4E horse.   But to suggest that a horse can routinely carry 720# is, imho, incomprehensible. Even in a fantasy game. (And the irony of this is that I am a gamist and generally ignore appeals to 'reality'. But in this case, I think it is patently obvious that the 'right answer' is that a horse can carry the weight of its typical intended rider, plus his gear. And that Dragonborn are not the intended riders of horses - they are too big). Bottom Line (as I see it): The weights in the book are logical and consistant and they work just fine. And they represent the average warhorse. If the player needs a larger horse (lets say a Percheron rather than a Friesian horse) he can buy it, it would just cost a bit extra. But the odds are that a typically sized dragonborn would still be too large for a horse. Dragonborn don't ride horses (imho, of course), just as humans don't usually ride ponies. Besides:  A dragonborn on a drake is just cooler anyway. Carl</blockquote>

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