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<blockquote data-quote="LightPhoenix" data-source="post: 1220752" data-attributes="member: 115"><p>I must say, I think this was the best episode so far this season. I won't go as in depth as JC did, but I want to hit a few points.</p><p> </p><p>I think Spike fit in pretty well in this episode, both in his interactions with Angel and Wesley, and his interaction with Eve. I think this episode, more than any other so far, made me think that Spike on Angel will work. I don't think he dominated the show at all (though see more below). Certainly no more than Fred did, or Angel, or even Eve. His report to Angel had me laughing out loud.</p><p> </p><p>Wesley - He remembers Lilah! That's seriously a load off my mind. Sure, he doesn't remember kidnapping Connor at all, but he does seem to remember Lilah getting killed by Cordy/Jasmine.</p><p> </p><p>On a related note, they really do love putting Wesley through the wringer, don't they? Eve and Angel talked about how Wesley was willing to sacrifice anything for the greater good. Even in the earlier seasons, you can see Wesley willing to take risks, but never really to sacrifice his friends, only himself. Maybe his change is because HE'S SO ABUSED!!!! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p> </p><p>Ooh, and we get Wesley with guns again! Kinky.</p><p> </p><p>Alright, I must grudgingly admit Fred didn't irritate the hell out of me this episode. I'm not sure why exactly she didn't have a weapon at all in the beginning, but she did stick up for Wesley, even if she's too dense to realize Wesley's feelings - hopefully she'll be more aware after tonight's episode.</p><p> </p><p>Gunn was vastly underused this week, though it was nice to see him kick some cyborg ninja butt along with Angel. Part of the problem with him having been defined as the muscle in previous seasons was that his combat ability was always trivialized compared to Angel. Good to see him hold his own today.</p><p> </p><p>And in more grudging admittence, Eve didn't bother me as much this week either. She seemed much less perky this week than she has in the past. She's definitely in the role of the temptress - she has really good observations and advice, but she's definitely evil too. I mean, just look at the changes in Angel with her around - he's more angry, more defensive, and more agressive overall.</p><p> </p><p>Finally, a very nice touch at end with Wesley calling his parents.</p><p> </p><p>Oh, and I seriously cheered when Wesley told Fred to go. I feel much better now that I know I still can't stand her. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="LightPhoenix, post: 1220752, member: 115"] I must say, I think this was the best episode so far this season. I won't go as in depth as JC did, but I want to hit a few points. I think Spike fit in pretty well in this episode, both in his interactions with Angel and Wesley, and his interaction with Eve. I think this episode, more than any other so far, made me think that Spike on Angel will work. I don't think he dominated the show at all (though see more below). Certainly no more than Fred did, or Angel, or even Eve. His report to Angel had me laughing out loud. Wesley - He remembers Lilah! That's seriously a load off my mind. Sure, he doesn't remember kidnapping Connor at all, but he does seem to remember Lilah getting killed by Cordy/Jasmine. On a related note, they really do love putting Wesley through the wringer, don't they? Eve and Angel talked about how Wesley was willing to sacrifice anything for the greater good. Even in the earlier seasons, you can see Wesley willing to take risks, but never really to sacrifice his friends, only himself. Maybe his change is because HE'S SO ABUSED!!!! :) Ooh, and we get Wesley with guns again! Kinky. Alright, I must grudgingly admit Fred didn't irritate the hell out of me this episode. I'm not sure why exactly she didn't have a weapon at all in the beginning, but she did stick up for Wesley, even if she's too dense to realize Wesley's feelings - hopefully she'll be more aware after tonight's episode. Gunn was vastly underused this week, though it was nice to see him kick some cyborg ninja butt along with Angel. Part of the problem with him having been defined as the muscle in previous seasons was that his combat ability was always trivialized compared to Angel. Good to see him hold his own today. And in more grudging admittence, Eve didn't bother me as much this week either. She seemed much less perky this week than she has in the past. She's definitely in the role of the temptress - she has really good observations and advice, but she's definitely evil too. I mean, just look at the changes in Angel with her around - he's more angry, more defensive, and more agressive overall. Finally, a very nice touch at end with Wesley calling his parents. Oh, and I seriously cheered when Wesley told Fred to go. I feel much better now that I know I still can't stand her. :) [/QUOTE]
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