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<blockquote data-quote="LightPhoenix" data-source="post: 1526154" data-attributes="member: 115"><p>I'm of two minds about this episode.</p><p> </p><p>Once again, we have an episode of <em>Angel</em> that's more focused on the events of it's sister show than it's own. This would have been more forgivable were this earlier in the season, but as the third to last episode it's simply not. Even if there were to be another season, it wouldn't be forgivable. This run of episodes is supposed to be bringing the events of this season of <em>Angel</em> to a head, not resolve stuff from <em>Buffy.</em></p><p> </p><p>Of course, I came down hard on them the last time this happened... but that was because it was more focused on <em>Buffy</em> than this one was. There were a number of reasons I resented that episode more, and still do, and I'll explain why in a bit.</p><p> </p><p>The other thing that <em>really</em> bothered me about this episode is that it's not doing anything. It's blatantly obvious at this point that the season finale would have been (and still is) a cliffhanger, which is okay. The problem is I'm just not feeling any tension at all, and this episode did absolutely nothing to help that. You need to have tension to have a good cliffhanger, whereas right now tonight's episode really felt like filler, like it added nothing to the coming cliffhanger.</p><p> </p><p>Now, on to what I liked. The writing was pretty good, and I even laughed at a few of the blatant <em>Buffy</em> references. I didn't feel like they were being crammed down my throat this time... perhaps in part to interjecting the Fred/Wesley B-plot, but I think more because of better writing this time around. Especially notable, IMO, was the joke about Spike's jacket. I don't know any of the story behind him getting it, but it was written in such a way that if you didn't, you could tell it had some value to him, and why. And all it took was a line or two.</p><p> </p><p>Illyria as Fred was creepy as hell, and *gasp* actually made me miss Fred as a character. While I certainly have my... issues with the way they treat Fred as a character, it was nice to see her again. J. August Richards is great ("Will somebody just get on the jet!"), still underused but oh well. Banter between Angel and Spike was great... I'm really glad they found their groove in using Spike. As most of you know I was really worried about his addition to the cast at the beginning of this season, but it worked out in the end.</p><p> </p><p>So like I said, I'm ambivalent. On the one hand I wasn't too pleased, on the other I thought it was a good episode. I think if it were earlier in the season I wouldn't be so torn, but given it's placement in the season it causes me some degree of dislike.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="LightPhoenix, post: 1526154, member: 115"] I'm of two minds about this episode. Once again, we have an episode of [i]Angel[/i] that's more focused on the events of it's sister show than it's own. This would have been more forgivable were this earlier in the season, but as the third to last episode it's simply not. Even if there were to be another season, it wouldn't be forgivable. This run of episodes is supposed to be bringing the events of this season of [i]Angel[/i] to a head, not resolve stuff from [i]Buffy.[/i] Of course, I came down hard on them the last time this happened... but that was because it was more focused on [i]Buffy[/i] than this one was. There were a number of reasons I resented that episode more, and still do, and I'll explain why in a bit. The other thing that [i]really[/i] bothered me about this episode is that it's not doing anything. It's blatantly obvious at this point that the season finale would have been (and still is) a cliffhanger, which is okay. The problem is I'm just not feeling any tension at all, and this episode did absolutely nothing to help that. You need to have tension to have a good cliffhanger, whereas right now tonight's episode really felt like filler, like it added nothing to the coming cliffhanger. Now, on to what I liked. The writing was pretty good, and I even laughed at a few of the blatant [i]Buffy[/i] references. I didn't feel like they were being crammed down my throat this time... perhaps in part to interjecting the Fred/Wesley B-plot, but I think more because of better writing this time around. Especially notable, IMO, was the joke about Spike's jacket. I don't know any of the story behind him getting it, but it was written in such a way that if you didn't, you could tell it had some value to him, and why. And all it took was a line or two. Illyria as Fred was creepy as hell, and *gasp* actually made me miss Fred as a character. While I certainly have my... issues with the way they treat Fred as a character, it was nice to see her again. J. August Richards is great ("Will somebody just get on the jet!"), still underused but oh well. Banter between Angel and Spike was great... I'm really glad they found their groove in using Spike. As most of you know I was really worried about his addition to the cast at the beginning of this season, but it worked out in the end. So like I said, I'm ambivalent. On the one hand I wasn't too pleased, on the other I thought it was a good episode. I think if it were earlier in the season I wouldn't be so torn, but given it's placement in the season it causes me some degree of dislike. [/QUOTE]
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