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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Tiberius" data-source="post: 1551488" data-attributes="member: 1376">Well, this may or may not be true.  On the one hand, Illyria was telling Wesley about being able to be with Fred while she was lying to him, but on the other it has been previously pointed out on this board that the only people who asserted that Fred's soul was "consumed in the fires of resurrection" were evil Illyria worshipers.  While I can't see any reason why they should lie, they are not the most objective sources.  I'm not sure we'll ever know the truth of the matter.Great episode.  Though my wife was irked by the fact that it didn't end on a clear final note, but rather left the fate of Angel's Avengers <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt="(:" title="Smile    (:"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname="(:" />)) in doubt.  I was surprised by the casualties.  I expected Gunn to be the one to die and Wes to be the one disillusioned with the good fight.  After all, he's spent the past 6 years getting dumped on for trying to do the right thing.  Still, it was cool, and a great end to a character whose journey was so long and eventful.</blockquote>