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<blockquote data-quote="Cthulhudrew" data-source="post: 1552557" data-attributes="member: 4090"><p>What I got from this episode is that Angel and the Gang finally came to the realization that the fight against is evil *is* the purpose. They're not doing it for the rewards that might possibly await them- Angel's dialog with Hamilton pretty much is about this exact thing. "I'll never understand why you people do this." "You people who don't care never will understand." (followed by one of the best lines, by Hamilton, "Yes, but we won't care.")</p><p></p><p>Angel signed away the Shanshu (how can you sign away a prophecy, though? Anyway) He signed it away because, this season more than any other, he has come to realize that he isn't fighting to become a human, he's fighting because its the right thing to do, and because he can. It's definitely been a gradual realization, but one that sank home this season more than any others, I think (and largely due to the Spike/Angel fighting for the Shanshu ordeal... sadly, I think Spike was largely wasted the latter half of the season, but I love Spike. Hope he gets a series.)</p><p></p><p>The others have come to this realization, too. Witness Gunn's discussion with Annie ("What would you do if I told you it wouldn't make a difference?" "I'd keep loading this truck.") Lorne realizes it- and he's at a point at the end of this season reminiscent of Angel's pre-Buffy days as a result. Spike realizes it- he's come to this point over the course of events since his Buffy days, as well as this season. Wes I think has known it longer than any of them, but it really sank in for him with Fred's death. He kept on fighting after that because he knew that was the thing to do.</p><p></p><p>That's one reason I think Lindsey had to die. Even if his "change of heart" had taken (and there are a number of times during the course of the series that lead me to believe Lindsey could have redeemed himself and taken another path), he hadn't come to the same realization. He's still living in a "fantasy" world ("You gave up your immortality for me. It's like a fantasy," he tells Eve when he's getting ready to go.) He is just fighting for the rewards he thinks he'll get- the girl, the firm, the glory. Not the reason to do it.</p><p></p><p>So whoever survives will continue the good fight- and I suspect, if they ever do another series or movie or whatnot that they all pull through. Illyria's just too tough to be killed by anything other than a Hamilton-strong demon; Angel and Spike are just tough (Angel may still have some Hamilton/Partner strength to boot), and Gunn- though I didn't always like the character, will probably pull through just because.</p><p></p><p>It's funny- I stuck through this series all the way (well, I had to stop watching mid-4th season, or whenever the Cordy/Connor thing happened) and always wanted it to be good. Despite a few misses this season (mostly at the end- the Spike/Angel Rome episode was bad, and the Black Thorn thing came too suddenly) this was a great season, made me want more. They really *got* what Angel should have been all along, and now it's over. They even got me to like Connor! (Like someone else said, if Connor had been like this all along, he'd have been cool.) Now it's all done. But what a way to go. Liked it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cthulhudrew, post: 1552557, member: 4090"] What I got from this episode is that Angel and the Gang finally came to the realization that the fight against is evil *is* the purpose. They're not doing it for the rewards that might possibly await them- Angel's dialog with Hamilton pretty much is about this exact thing. "I'll never understand why you people do this." "You people who don't care never will understand." (followed by one of the best lines, by Hamilton, "Yes, but we won't care.") Angel signed away the Shanshu (how can you sign away a prophecy, though? Anyway) He signed it away because, this season more than any other, he has come to realize that he isn't fighting to become a human, he's fighting because its the right thing to do, and because he can. It's definitely been a gradual realization, but one that sank home this season more than any others, I think (and largely due to the Spike/Angel fighting for the Shanshu ordeal... sadly, I think Spike was largely wasted the latter half of the season, but I love Spike. Hope he gets a series.) The others have come to this realization, too. Witness Gunn's discussion with Annie ("What would you do if I told you it wouldn't make a difference?" "I'd keep loading this truck.") Lorne realizes it- and he's at a point at the end of this season reminiscent of Angel's pre-Buffy days as a result. Spike realizes it- he's come to this point over the course of events since his Buffy days, as well as this season. Wes I think has known it longer than any of them, but it really sank in for him with Fred's death. He kept on fighting after that because he knew that was the thing to do. That's one reason I think Lindsey had to die. Even if his "change of heart" had taken (and there are a number of times during the course of the series that lead me to believe Lindsey could have redeemed himself and taken another path), he hadn't come to the same realization. He's still living in a "fantasy" world ("You gave up your immortality for me. It's like a fantasy," he tells Eve when he's getting ready to go.) He is just fighting for the rewards he thinks he'll get- the girl, the firm, the glory. Not the reason to do it. So whoever survives will continue the good fight- and I suspect, if they ever do another series or movie or whatnot that they all pull through. Illyria's just too tough to be killed by anything other than a Hamilton-strong demon; Angel and Spike are just tough (Angel may still have some Hamilton/Partner strength to boot), and Gunn- though I didn't always like the character, will probably pull through just because. It's funny- I stuck through this series all the way (well, I had to stop watching mid-4th season, or whenever the Cordy/Connor thing happened) and always wanted it to be good. Despite a few misses this season (mostly at the end- the Spike/Angel Rome episode was bad, and the Black Thorn thing came too suddenly) this was a great season, made me want more. They really *got* what Angel should have been all along, and now it's over. They even got me to like Connor! (Like someone else said, if Connor had been like this all along, he'd have been cool.) Now it's all done. But what a way to go. Liked it. [/QUOTE]
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