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<blockquote data-quote="Merlion" data-source="post: 1555897" data-attributes="member: 10397"><p>Well, I'm not a great one for inconclusive endings, but this was pretty good.</p><p>Having each of them have their mark, and then the survivors regroup was a nice effect.</p><p> Really, my favorite thing about the whole last half of the season is Ilyria. And Wesley's death furthered that very nicely...she finally admits that yes she does have feelings.</p><p> And its interesting to note she was the only one of them who took out two memebers of the Black Thorn, and did so pretty much without sustaining a scratch.</p><p> Honestly, I would have liked it better in some ways if the end had involved her temporarily regaining most or all of her old power and kicking some major butt...but I understand that this went with the season's theme better.</p><p> And the dragon, and that walking mountain-sized sillhoute in the back were pretty nifty.</p><p> I tend to agree that one way or another, they'd find a way to survive. I dont really see how much of anything could actually kill Ilyria even in her double-reduced state. Beside which, something would most likely happen. Buffy shows up with a troop of slayers and Willow or something similiar.</p><p></p><p>I'm just annoyed it ended. The 4th season and the early part of the 5th had some so-so parts but with the whole Ilyria storyline the writting had become truly amazing.</p><p></p><p>If I had my way, Ilyria'd get her own show, or at least be in any new Buffy spinoff to take place</p><p>I mean she's really a first. First, the show actually goes into the existence of Lovecraftian elder gods/demons, something you rarely see on TV.</p><p>Then, it has one of them on the show...and more than that, the ancient demon thing becomes a real character. Not just a villian, or a curiosity. And thats actually a double first. I have never before seen them take either an ancient Lovecrafty god-thing and make he/she/it into a real character...and rarely do you see a TV show have any character that is either extremely powerful, or extremely alien in mindset, become a real living character.</p><p> Its sad really because I think maybe she and Wesley could have had something in the end if he had lived.</p><p> I hope that Lorne doesnt go off and become an addict or some such...although certainly its true that being around Wolfram and Hart must have been hard for him.</p><p></p><p>Speaking of which, I would really liked to have learned more about the Wolf, Ram, and Hart. Are they like THE supreme evil of everything and everywhere, or just that one world? We know that they were little more than ants in Ilyria's heyday. We know they have influence in Pylea.</p><p></p><p>The episode was great, but I'm very annoyed it ended. And I'll feel better if there is another Buffy show, and we learn what actually happens to everyone.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Merlion, post: 1555897, member: 10397"] Well, I'm not a great one for inconclusive endings, but this was pretty good. Having each of them have their mark, and then the survivors regroup was a nice effect. Really, my favorite thing about the whole last half of the season is Ilyria. And Wesley's death furthered that very nicely...she finally admits that yes she does have feelings. And its interesting to note she was the only one of them who took out two memebers of the Black Thorn, and did so pretty much without sustaining a scratch. Honestly, I would have liked it better in some ways if the end had involved her temporarily regaining most or all of her old power and kicking some major butt...but I understand that this went with the season's theme better. And the dragon, and that walking mountain-sized sillhoute in the back were pretty nifty. I tend to agree that one way or another, they'd find a way to survive. I dont really see how much of anything could actually kill Ilyria even in her double-reduced state. Beside which, something would most likely happen. Buffy shows up with a troop of slayers and Willow or something similiar. I'm just annoyed it ended. The 4th season and the early part of the 5th had some so-so parts but with the whole Ilyria storyline the writting had become truly amazing. If I had my way, Ilyria'd get her own show, or at least be in any new Buffy spinoff to take place I mean she's really a first. First, the show actually goes into the existence of Lovecraftian elder gods/demons, something you rarely see on TV. Then, it has one of them on the show...and more than that, the ancient demon thing becomes a real character. Not just a villian, or a curiosity. And thats actually a double first. I have never before seen them take either an ancient Lovecrafty god-thing and make he/she/it into a real character...and rarely do you see a TV show have any character that is either extremely powerful, or extremely alien in mindset, become a real living character. Its sad really because I think maybe she and Wesley could have had something in the end if he had lived. I hope that Lorne doesnt go off and become an addict or some such...although certainly its true that being around Wolfram and Hart must have been hard for him. Speaking of which, I would really liked to have learned more about the Wolf, Ram, and Hart. Are they like THE supreme evil of everything and everywhere, or just that one world? We know that they were little more than ants in Ilyria's heyday. We know they have influence in Pylea. The episode was great, but I'm very annoyed it ended. And I'll feel better if there is another Buffy show, and we learn what actually happens to everyone. [/QUOTE]
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