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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Vocenoctum" data-source="post: 1196600" data-attributes="member: 2477">I think the problem with Gunn was that he really got lost a a character once he joined the gang. I'm watching some of the old stuff, and he really was different when he was first introduced. Last season he seemed more like Thug #3 than a real character.Wes has really undergone an evolution, but then he seems to have been forgotten. I think Whedon & Crew don't know how to keep the focus on the group, which has grown too large for their abilities. So Wes suffers.I just don't understand why Lorne is a group member. Perhaps it will come to me while watching old eps, but he really seems more fit as a regular NPC than a Core Group PC.And, Fred. She's not unattractive, but she's not so hot that every guy has to fall for her. It's gotten tedious that everyone seems drawn to her. Hopefully they reveal that she's some evil succubus that is using magical powers or something, that'd be fun. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Angel & Buffy's love was supposed to be teh once in a lifetime thing. It was supposed to be so special that the fact they couldn't be togethor was soul wrenching.Angel/Cordelia minimized that, Spike./ Buffy didn't as much, because Buffy made it clear that Spike wasn' her true love. Spike/ Fred minimizes Spike's attraction to Buffy for me though. Spike & Angel were great on the last ep's of Buffy. They haven't had the same level of interaction on Angel though. Hopefully soon.</blockquote>

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