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Message: <blockquote data-quote="John Crichton" data-source="post: 888313" data-attributes="member: 4779">There's the trust thing again.  Connor was devoid of common sense.  The confusion over what is right and wrong thing excuse ended earlier in the year.  Connor was clearly making his own choices and generally acting like a brat.  Not once did he show remorse for his actions.  Faith did and in a much shorter time.  There is a fine line between what the those 2 characters did.  By the time Connor killed Jasmine he didn't want to be redeemed.  And like I said, what you have had Angel do?  What was going to redeem Connor?  What could any of them done?As I said, redemption was no where in sight.  Connor was becomming increasing unstable and was already a danger to everyone he encountered.Fair enough.  If you don't want to see the earlier actions of Team Angel trying to accept Connor then so be it.  I was under the impression that they all made an attempt to accept him.  It was Connor's own insecurities (probably driven into him by Holtz), hostility and notions of right/wrong that led him to where he was.I don't blame Connor for being confused in general after his return from the hell-dimension.  His story has been a sad one right from the start.  But I can say that Team Angel tried to help him.  Angel tried many time to help him by either being there for him or giving him space.  None of that worked.  So I give the question again:  What would you have had Angel do?  Connor wasn't going to stop his behavior any time soon.He did give him redemption.  He have him a "normal" life and chance to be in a loving and not twisted family.  He took away all the brainwashing the Holtz did to him.  He took away all the doubt and mind games.  He gave him a second chance.  That is not taking away free will.  He made a choice for his son which all parents do.  He gave Connor a chance at happiness but at the cost of any future relationship with him, the ultimate sacrifice.  I'm sure Angel would have died for him.Do you honestly think there was anything else Angel could have done to make Connor happy?It's probably best to just it at that.  I dig Cordy, you don't, that's cool with me.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />I guess the difference we have here is that I don't see it as lazy writing.  I like it when shows are willing to change direction.  Angel still has to live with what he did, the others had very little stake in that.  Connor got what was coming to him and because of his father's love was given a second chance.  I guarantee that we will see consequences to Angel's actions.  Joss doesn't let these things go so easily...</blockquote>

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