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<blockquote data-quote="Samnell" data-source="post: 888339" data-attributes="member: 130"><p>Here we diverge. I think killing Jasmine is about the time he started wanting it. The whole stopping to talk to Angel instead of just blowing everything up out of hand thing screamed "Cry for Help" to me. A sick and twisted cry for help, but then again I'm not arguing Conner was all on his rocker.</p><p></p><p>I think Angel stopping him and not brain-wiping him would have been a good start. Conner's spent a season learning everything is a lie. Love is a lie. Good is a lie. His life is a lie. I think he was ready to give the long walk into the light a try. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That's the sticking point. I think the whole season was a part of the process of getting Conner ready for something like this. And instead of stopping him and giving him a hug or something Angel sticks him with the +1 Dagger of life-erasing.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Except for the new round authored by everyone's favorite ensouled vampire. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>If you call erasing his existance a second chance. That Conner in the house where Angel reprised his stalker persona is not the Conner we've seen before. They just share a body.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Sure.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I don't know, but I would have much rather seen him have some kind of serious deep TV talk with Conner that convinces Bomb Boy he needs to do some thinking about his choices. Angel already had his plan when he went in, so far as I can see tell. No more talking or trying to get to understand Conner. Let's just brain-zap him.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I don't see the brainzap as a second chance. To me, Angel killed his son. All the memories, all the experiences, however horrific, were what made Conner Conner. Angel wiped that away. </p><p></p><p>I'm ok with shows changing direction too (well ok, as long as I like the new direction) but I don't see anything about Conner that's necessarily incompatible with the new direction. His mistrust of magic might come in damn useful considering how AI's partnering up with W&H. </p><p></p><p>My hope now is that Conner eventually shrugs off the W&H brainwashing and reappears a little more well-adjusted from it. That could salvage the brainwipe for me. Conner ends up remembering everything, but somehow also keeps something from the Brady Bunch of Left-Lane traffic to balance him out.</p><p></p><p>Otherwise it's just another lie perpetrated on him and after Jasmine I think he's given up on letting himself survive through lies.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Samnell, post: 888339, member: 130"] Here we diverge. I think killing Jasmine is about the time he started wanting it. The whole stopping to talk to Angel instead of just blowing everything up out of hand thing screamed "Cry for Help" to me. A sick and twisted cry for help, but then again I'm not arguing Conner was all on his rocker. I think Angel stopping him and not brain-wiping him would have been a good start. Conner's spent a season learning everything is a lie. Love is a lie. Good is a lie. His life is a lie. I think he was ready to give the long walk into the light a try. That's the sticking point. I think the whole season was a part of the process of getting Conner ready for something like this. And instead of stopping him and giving him a hug or something Angel sticks him with the +1 Dagger of life-erasing. Except for the new round authored by everyone's favorite ensouled vampire. If you call erasing his existance a second chance. That Conner in the house where Angel reprised his stalker persona is not the Conner we've seen before. They just share a body. Sure. I don't know, but I would have much rather seen him have some kind of serious deep TV talk with Conner that convinces Bomb Boy he needs to do some thinking about his choices. Angel already had his plan when he went in, so far as I can see tell. No more talking or trying to get to understand Conner. Let's just brain-zap him. I don't see the brainzap as a second chance. To me, Angel killed his son. All the memories, all the experiences, however horrific, were what made Conner Conner. Angel wiped that away. I'm ok with shows changing direction too (well ok, as long as I like the new direction) but I don't see anything about Conner that's necessarily incompatible with the new direction. His mistrust of magic might come in damn useful considering how AI's partnering up with W&H. My hope now is that Conner eventually shrugs off the W&H brainwashing and reappears a little more well-adjusted from it. That could salvage the brainwipe for me. Conner ends up remembering everything, but somehow also keeps something from the Brady Bunch of Left-Lane traffic to balance him out. Otherwise it's just another lie perpetrated on him and after Jasmine I think he's given up on letting himself survive through lies. [/QUOTE]
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