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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Tarrasque Wrangler" data-source="post: 889411" data-attributes="member: 7473">THE EXACT SAME THING?Now hold on there.Holtz BROKE Connor.  He took him away from a father who loved him, and raised him in the most nightmarish Hell imaginable.  He brainwashed him daily about how evil Angel was, knowing full well that Angel was ensouled and remorseful of his former actions.  He treated Connor like cannon fodder in a war Connor never volunteered for.  Holtz did awful, abusive, manipulative, vengeful things to this boy who treated him like a father.Angel understood that his son was in a bad place that he could not escape from.  Connor had consistently shown that he was a danger to himself and others.  What he wanted was a normal life (watch the scene with him and the suicidal cop on the roof), but this was an unattainable goal, as he had no yardstick to measure what "normal" was.  He was in terrible emotional pain, trauma, and might not ever be happy again.  Maybe with years of intense, round-the-clock therapy in an institutional setting, he could have been cured, but just as easily not.  I think if Connor had had the power to do what Angel and W&H did for him, he would have done that himself a long time ago.What Holtz did was abuse, plain and simple.  What Angel did was provide a dream life for his son that he never could have had on his own.  If, to you, this is a horrible thing, then I'm glad for you that you don't know the pain of having terrible trauma in your past that you can't forget about, no matter how hard you try.</blockquote>

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