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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Sejs" data-source="post: 2872215" data-attributes="member: 4910">Yeah, I know. It's just one of those things that seems to fly in the face of all that makes sense, personally.  I don't know.  If I had to stretch it, maybe I'd venture to say they start to develop Sylvan or some other 'holy crap, I'm so naturey' language.Just for my own reference, can you point me to where that particular ruling can be found?  I know it says all characters speak Common (and their racial language, if demihuman), but I'm not seeing anything that says all creatures do.  Many expressly do not.  Help a cube out, Patryn.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />  This sorta harkens back to the single-state change vs unchanged-with-augmentation argument. I have a longsword that I cast Greater Magic Weapon on.  Is it then a magical longsword, or a mundane longsword with a spell effect on it? Anyway, neither would necessarily change the creature's type as neither is a permanent, inherrent change to the creature.  Awaken (and becoming a familiar) would seem to be a good guideline as for what changes type and what does not.  Both effects are inherrent to the creature once performed, and both stipulate that the type change takes place.  If a temporary effect such as a headband or a fox's cunning could change the creature's type, there could be issues arising.  Off the top of my head - animals have 3/4ths BAB where as magical beasts have full BAB.  If I toss a headband of intellect on my dog, does his BAB go up?  His hit die type?  Does he gain darkvision? To an extent.  The watchword here is 'to an extent'.  You can teach a dog to respond to a command word by training it, but the dog doesn't know what the word means, they just know that a particular sound you make is associated with you wanting them to do a particular action.  The word itself is irrelevent - you could teach a dog to come when you said the word 'flypaper' and it'd work just as well as if you trained it to respond to 'c'mere boy'.There are few animals that can actually communicate linguistically both ways - gorillas and sign language, for example, but those are by far the exception rather than the rule.  Most animals don't have a proper language, but rather communicate sublinguistically via tone, inflection and body language, but without direct context to the sound itself.</blockquote>

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