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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 6271569" data-attributes="member: 4937"><p>There are several basic flaws in your argument.</p><p></p><p>First, you are basing it off the practices of people in this world, which may be different than the fantasy world in question. In particular in at least one area we can say its certainly different - this world doesn't have animated skeletons and zombies.</p><p></p><p>Secondly, you are assuming that no one in the arguments you mention is actually right and that it is all a matter of opinion. You are neglecting the possibility that maybe cannibalism or autopsies really are not just repulsive but also evil, and that your opinion of them is in error. Evil and good are what they are, regardless of what anyone thinks of them. It could be for example that even if no one believed murder, or slavery, or rape, or some such other thing was wrong, it would still be wrong. Leaving aside whether that is true in the real world (which is not a fitting topic of conversation for these forums, per the instructions of the owner), it is certainly true in the fantasy world being discussed where evil and good appear to have provable objective reality.</p><p></p><p>Thirdly, you are comparing things that might not be comparable. It could be true that there are both things which are matters of opinion and custom and not really matters of good and evil at all, and also there are also customs and laws which absolutely are not matters of opinion. Since these two things belong to different categories of things, to draw conclusions based on examining one doesn't really tell you a lot necessarily about the other. It could be that which car you drive or even which day you bow down to pray on are really just matters of social whim, arbitrary custom, and tradition. But to point out that this is so, even if you could prove it is so, doesn't prove that everything is a mere matter of whim and preference.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Since the people of the fantasy world in question have assurances of an afterlife, I would imagine that they are at least not more fearful of death than we are in this one.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes, but do bacteria exist in the world we are describing, or is disease the result of evil spirits and humors in the air?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 6271569, member: 4937"] There are several basic flaws in your argument. First, you are basing it off the practices of people in this world, which may be different than the fantasy world in question. In particular in at least one area we can say its certainly different - this world doesn't have animated skeletons and zombies. Secondly, you are assuming that no one in the arguments you mention is actually right and that it is all a matter of opinion. You are neglecting the possibility that maybe cannibalism or autopsies really are not just repulsive but also evil, and that your opinion of them is in error. Evil and good are what they are, regardless of what anyone thinks of them. It could be for example that even if no one believed murder, or slavery, or rape, or some such other thing was wrong, it would still be wrong. Leaving aside whether that is true in the real world (which is not a fitting topic of conversation for these forums, per the instructions of the owner), it is certainly true in the fantasy world being discussed where evil and good appear to have provable objective reality. Thirdly, you are comparing things that might not be comparable. It could be true that there are both things which are matters of opinion and custom and not really matters of good and evil at all, and also there are also customs and laws which absolutely are not matters of opinion. Since these two things belong to different categories of things, to draw conclusions based on examining one doesn't really tell you a lot necessarily about the other. It could be that which car you drive or even which day you bow down to pray on are really just matters of social whim, arbitrary custom, and tradition. But to point out that this is so, even if you could prove it is so, doesn't prove that everything is a mere matter of whim and preference. Since the people of the fantasy world in question have assurances of an afterlife, I would imagine that they are at least not more fearful of death than we are in this one. Yes, but do bacteria exist in the world we are describing, or is disease the result of evil spirits and humors in the air? [/QUOTE]
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