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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Falling Icicle" data-source="post: 6271610" data-attributes="member: 17077">Yes, it absolutely is. There are human beings. There are familiar plants and animals, cycles and seasons, and countless other fundamental Earth-like elements. They just add to it and change some things. Add dragons. Add magic. Add beholders. But there is still grass, there are trees, there are birds. It's basically our world, but with a twist.Those myths and legends are also fundamentally based on our world.They're "right" to who? To the gods? Which god? Not all gods agree, and they even fight amongst each other.Most people would consider "profane" and "repulsive" to be synonymous, but whatever. I refuse to get dragged down into an argument over semantics.No. How do YOU know? The only reason that animating the dead is "evil" is because the game's designer decided arbitrarily that it is. It can just as easily be changed, just as many things in DnD have changed. Your argument that some things just are is baseless, because they are only what the game's designers say they are. Anyway, I'm not going to argue with you about what "is" is. I've made my case for why I think it's not evil, your argument is "it just is, just because" which is no argument at all.For someone that insists that Earth has nothing to do with DnD, you sure do make a lot of comparisons to our world."It's magic." That's really all there is to it. I couldn't possibly tell you what physics make the dead walk because they don't exist. Magic, by its very nature, is supernatural and not bound by the laws of physics.I never said that necromancy didn't come without consequences. That's not even what I'm debating here. What I'm debating is whether or not Dr. Frankenstein should be labeled as "evil" as if such a thing is absolute and his intentions and motives don't even matter. Except, they do matter. When discussing morality, they're ALL that matters.That isn't what I'm arguing at all. I never once suggested that necromancy wouldn't be reviled, feared, and despised by many people in the game world. I never said that nobody ever should care. What I'm debating is whether or not the spell should be considered to be "evil" by the rules of the game.This is factually false. Not all societies bury their dead and care for them. 2,000 years ago, it was the common custom to cremate the dead throughout most of western civilization, not bury them.Here you go again with the absolutes. Not everyone finds the same things disgusting. Not everyone thinks the same things are ugly. By your logic, steak, if anyone finds it disgusting, IS disgusting, no matter what. Everyone who think steak is delicious is just wrong. If one person thinks something is ugly, everyone must think it is ugly, because it IS ugly. Except it's not. Tastes and perceptions vary. Cultures vary. You're trying to make everything cut and dry, absolute, black and white, and turn things that are purely subjective into objective, absolute matters of fact. It doesn't work that way.Wow. Now you're discussing rape and family and other touchy matters. I'm not even going to go there. I think you're getting a bit too emotional about this. Let's just agree to disagree.</blockquote>

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