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Message: <blockquote data-quote="frankthedm" data-source="post: 1967369" data-attributes="member: 1164">You are incorrectly using the 3.0 monster manual with 3.5 spells, classes and abilities. In 3.5 skeleton and zombie are templates. Even in 3.0 Wotc was quick to provide templates for better undead than the monster manual [see thier website]Rhino zombies are good beat-sticksLarge undeadHit Dice:    16d12+3 / 107 HPInitiative:    -1Speed:    30 ft. (6 squares)Armor Class:    18 (–1 size, -1 dex, +10 natural), touch 8, flat-footed 18Base Attack/Grapple:    +8/+21Attack:    Gore +16 melee (2d6+13)Space/Reach:    10 ft./5 ft.Special Attacks: as zombie    Special Qualities: as zombie    Saves:    as 16 HD zombieAbilities: Str 28, Dex 8, Con -, Int -, Wis 10, Cha 1Skills:    Feats:    toughnessSKELETONSkeletons are the animated bones of the dead, mindless automatons that obey the orders of their evil masters.A skeleton is seldom garbed in anything more than the rotting remnants of any clothing or armor it was wearing when slain. A skeleton does only what it is ordered to do. It can draw no conclusions of its own and takes no initiative. Because of this limitation, its instructions must always be simple. A skeleton attacks until destroyed.CREATING A SKELETON“Skeleton” is an acquired template that can be added to any corporeal creature (other than an undead) that has a skeletal system (referred to hereafter as the base creature).Size and Type: The creature’s type changes to undead. It retains any subtype except for alignment subtypes (such as good) and subtypes that indicate kind. It does not gain the augmented subtype. It uses all the base creature’s statistics and special abilities except as noted here.Hit Dice: Drop any Hit Dice gained from class levels (to a minimum of 1) and raise remaining Hit Dice to d12s. If the creature has more than 20 Hit Dice, it can’t be made into a skeleton by the animate dead spell.Speed: Winged skeletons can’t use their wings to fly. If the base creature flew magically, so can the skeleton.Armor Class: Natural armor bonus changes to a number based on the skeleton’s size:Tiny or smaller    +0Small    +1Medium or Large    +2Huge    +3Gargantuan    +6Colossal    +10Attacks: A skeleton retains all the natural weapons, manufactured weapon attacks, and weapon proficiencies of the base creature, except for attacks that can’t work without flesh. A creature with hands gains one claw attack per hand; the skeleton can strike with each of its claw attacks at its full attack bonus. A skeleton’s base attack bonus is equal to 1/2 its Hit Dice.Damage: Natural and manufactured weapons deal damage normally. A claw attack deals damage depending on the skeleton’s size. (If the base creature already had claw attacks with its hands, use the skeleton claw damage only if it’s better.)Diminutive or Fine    1Tiny    1d2Small    1d3Medium    1d4Large    1d6Huge    1d8Gargantuan    2d6Colossal    2d8Special Attacks: A skeleton retains none of the base creature’s special attacks.Special Qualities: A skeleton loses most special qualities of the base creature. It retains any extraordinary special qualities that improve its melee or ranged attacks. A skeleton gains the following special qualities.Immunity to Cold (Ex): Skeletons are not affected by cold.Damage Reduction 5/Bludgeoning: Skeletons lack flesh or internal organs.Saves: Base save bonuses are Fort +1/3 HD, Ref +1/3 HD, and Will +1/2 HD + 2.Abilities: A skeleton’s Dexterity increases by +2, it has no Constitution or Intelligence score, its Wisdom changes to 10, and its Charisma changes to 1.Skills: A skeleton has no skills.Feats: A skeleton loses all feats of the base creature and gains Improved Initiative.Environment: Any, usually same as base creature.Organization: Any.Challenge Rating: Depends on Hit Dice, as follows:Hit Dice    Challenge Rating1/2    1/61    1/32–3    14–5    26–7    38–9    410–11    512–14    615–17    718–20    8Treasure: None.Alignment: Always neutral evil.Troll SkeletonLarge Undead6d12 (39 hp)+730 ft. (6 squares)14 (+3 Dex, –1 size, +2 natural), touch 12, flat-footed 11+3/+13Claw +8 melee (1d6+6)2 claws +8 melee (1d6+6) and bite +3 melee (1d6+3)10 ft./10 ft—Damage reduction 5/bludgeoning, darkvision 60 ft., immunity to cold, undead traitsFort +2, Ref +5, Will +5Str 23, Dex 16, Con —, Int —, Wis 10, Cha 1Improved InitiativeCold mountainsAny3NoneAlways neutral evil——Chimera SkeletonLarge Undead9d12 (58 hp)+630 ft. (6 squares)13 (+2 Dex., –1 size, +2 natural), touch 11, flat-footed 11+4/+12Bite +7 melee (2d6+4)Bite +7 melee (2d6+4) and bite+7 melee (1d8+4) and gore +7 melee (1d8+4) and 2 claws +2 melee (1d6+2)10 ft./5 ft—Damage reduction 5/bludgeoning, darkvision 60 ft., immunity to cold, undead traitsFort +3, Ref +5, Will +6Str 19, Dex 15, Con —, Int —, Wis 10, Cha 1Improved InitiativeTemperate hillsAny4NoneAlways neutral evil10–13 HD (Large); 14–27 HD (Huge)—ZOMBIEZombies are corpses reanimated through dark and sinister magic.Because of their utter lack of intelligence, the instructions given to a newly created zombie must be very simple.CREATING A ZOMBIE“Zombie” is an acquired template that can be added to any corporeal creature (other than an undead) that has a skeletal system (referred to hereafter as the base creature). Size and Type: The creature’s type changes to undead. It retains any subtypes except alignment subtypes and subtypes that indicate kind. It does not gain the augmented subtype. It uses all the base creature’s statistics and special abilities except as noted here.Hit Dice: Drop any Hit Dice from class levels (to a minimum of 1), double the number of Hit Dice left, and raise them to d12s. If the base creature has more than 10 Hit Dice (not counting those gained with experience), it can’t be made into a zombie with the animate dead spell.Speed: If the base creature can fly, its maneuverability rating drops to clumsy.Armor Class: Natural armor bonus increases by a number based on the zombie’s size:Tiny or smaller    +0Small    +1Medium    +2Large    +3Huge    +4Gargantuan    +7Colossal    +11Base Attack: A zombie has a base attack bonus equal to 1/2 its Hit Dice.Attacks: A zombie retains all the natural weapons, manufactured weapon attacks, and weapon proficiencies of the base creature. A zombie also gains a slam attack.Damage: Natural and manufactured weapons deal damage normally. A slam attack deals damage depending on the zombie’s size. (Use the base creature’s slam damage if it’s better.)Fine    1Diminutive    1d2Tiny    1d3Small    1d4Medium    1d6Large    1d8Huge    2d6Gargantuan    2d8Colossal    4d6Special Attacks: A zombie retains none of the base creature’s special attacks.Special Qualities: A zombie loses most special qualities of the base creature. It retains any extraordinary special qualities that improve its melee or ranged attacks. A zombie gains the following special quality.Single Actions Only (Ex): Zombies have poor reflexes and can perform only a single move action or attack action each round. A zombie can move up to its speed and attack in the same round, but only if it attempts a charge.Saves: Base save bonuses are Fort +1/3 HD, Ref +1/3 HD, and Will +1/2 HD + 2.Abilities: A zombie’s Strength increases by +2, its Dexterity decreases by 2, it has no Constitution or Intelligence score, its Wisdom changes to 10, and its Charisma changes to 1.Skills: A zombie has no skills.Feats: A zombie loses all feats of the base creature and gains Toughness.Environment: Any land and underground. Organization: Any.Challenge Rating: Depends on Hit Dice, as follows:Hit Dice    Challenge Rating1/2    1/81    1/42    1/24    16    28–10    312–14    415–16    518–20    6Treasure: None.Alignment: Always neutral evilWyvern ZombieLarge Undead14d12+3 (94 hp)+020 ft. (4 squares; can’t run), fly 60 ft. (poor)20 (–2 size, +12 natural), touch 8, flat-footed 20+7/+16Slam +11 melee (2d6+7) or talons +11 melee (2d6+5)Slam +11 melee (2d6+7) or talons +11 melee (2d6+5)—Single actions only, damage reduction 5/slashing, darkvision 60 ft., undead traitsFort +4, Ref +4, Will +9Str 21, Dex 10, Con —, Int —, Wis 10, Cha 1—ToughnessWarm hillsAny4NoneAlways neutral evil16–20 HD (Huge)—</blockquote>

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