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<blockquote data-quote="Voadam" data-source="post: 3781950" data-attributes="member: 2209">Not quite. The ergo would be that a &quot;dead creature&quot; for purposes of rules are not creatures but objects.It would be like a sharpened blunt object. Sharpening the blunt object turns it into a non-blunt object.Apply the dead condition to the creature and it no longer qualifies as a creature for purposes of rules effects.Sharpen a blunt object and it is no longer a blunt object.Implications are that animate objects and shatter affect corpses. This is odd for shatter as you don't think of shatter affecting mushy things, but it works against any object so cloaks and corpses make the list. Animate objects treats them as inert matter that can be animated by magic. Animate dead uses dark magic to turn corpses into animated undead.Raise dead specifically targets a dead creature so it still works. It does not affect other objects because the target is specifically dead creatures. This still makes sense.You can shrink object a corpse.Wood products are treated as objects and not tree creatures.You can not do creature spells on corpses so no bull's strength on the dead then raise them.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Voadam, post: 3781950, member: 2209"] Not quite. The ergo would be that a "dead creature" for purposes of rules are not creatures but objects. It would be like a sharpened blunt object. Sharpening the blunt object turns it into a non-blunt object. Apply the dead condition to the creature and it no longer qualifies as a creature for purposes of rules effects. Sharpen a blunt object and it is no longer a blunt object. Implications are that animate objects and shatter affect corpses. This is odd for shatter as you don't think of shatter affecting mushy things, but it works against any object so cloaks and corpses make the list. Animate objects treats them as inert matter that can be animated by magic. Animate dead uses dark magic to turn corpses into animated undead. Raise dead specifically targets a dead creature so it still works. It does not affect other objects because the target is specifically dead creatures. This still makes sense. You can shrink object a corpse. Wood products are treated as objects and not tree creatures. You can not do creature spells on corpses so no bull's strength on the dead then raise them. [/QUOTE]

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