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<blockquote data-quote="Orcus" data-source="post: 3158127" data-attributes="member: 1254"><p>Those pregens totally sucked. The adventure sucked, from a design standpoint.</p><p></p><p>The ranger has 7 ranks in ride and 0 in spot. No precise shot or point blank shot. </p><p></p><p>The paladin has Cha 10, so has a bunch of basically unusable abilities. We called him the fighter. The paladin is wearing +1 banded mail and has an AC of 16. Even a total idiot would have a 4th level paladin with better AC than that. </p><p></p><p>The dwarf cleric basically cant do anything because of his lame weapon. </p><p></p><p>I could go on and on. </p><p></p><p>The flameskull encounter is whacked. The dungeon tiles layout for the adventure was such a crappy cobbled together mass of junk it didnt even really make any sense. I was so bush league it was embarassing. </p><p></p><p>Poorly designed adventure, poorly prepared pregens, they never posted the "guidelines" to write your own adventure for the game day, and it didnt even have good tie ins of the retailers (for isntance, the was a suggestion that the adventure had something to do with ravenloft, but nothing in the adventure really linked that up). the retailer kit was crappy and it was "limited" so not every story that wanted them got them.</p><p></p><p>I run Necromancer Games. I supported my local game store. I volunteered to be a guest DM for the game day. i recruited 4 other DMs. I got people pumped. I brought in over $200 worth of Necro give away items for the day. But the CRAP that WotC put out was pathetic. This was D&D FREAKING GAMEDAY!!!! ONCE A YEAR!!!! THE CHANCE TO HELP NEWBIES GET INVOLVED AND TO HELP RETAILERS KEEP D&D A VIABLE AND VISIBLE PRESENCE AND THAT WAS IT?!?!?! A JOKE!</p><p></p><p>I was obvious that no one spent any real time making the pregens. I mean, I dont even know if the person who made the pregens actually plays D&D. I find that impossible to believe. </p><p></p><p>And the adventure, it could not possibly have been playtested with those pregens. Not by anyone that actually plays D&D.</p><p></p><p>And no good tie ins for retailers at all. </p><p></p><p>I was so underwhelmed. I was really disappointed with WotC's efforts on this. </p><p></p><p>HERE IS MY PLEDGE: NEXT YEAR, I WILL WRITE A FREE ADVENTURE FOR D&D GAMEDAY AND MAKE IT AVAILABLE ON OUR WEBSITE AND I WILL TAKE THE GAMEDAY PREGENS AND TWEAK THEM TO BE ACTUALLY PLAYABLE PREGENS!!! Then we can call it Necro Gameday.</p><p></p><p>Unbelievably disappointing.</p><p></p><p>I will say this--I'm sure plenty of people had fun. And for that I am glad. But this isnt just for having fun, it is for SHOWING OFF D&D. That was a really really piss poor job of showcasing D&D.</p><p></p><p>By the way, I say this loving WotC. I love the people there. I think they have been doing great stuff recently. I love their products the last year or so. Which makes this disappointment all the more surprising and troubling. Its like they didnt even bother...</p><p></p><p>Clark</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Orcus, post: 3158127, member: 1254"] Those pregens totally sucked. The adventure sucked, from a design standpoint. The ranger has 7 ranks in ride and 0 in spot. No precise shot or point blank shot. The paladin has Cha 10, so has a bunch of basically unusable abilities. We called him the fighter. The paladin is wearing +1 banded mail and has an AC of 16. Even a total idiot would have a 4th level paladin with better AC than that. The dwarf cleric basically cant do anything because of his lame weapon. I could go on and on. The flameskull encounter is whacked. The dungeon tiles layout for the adventure was such a crappy cobbled together mass of junk it didnt even really make any sense. I was so bush league it was embarassing. Poorly designed adventure, poorly prepared pregens, they never posted the "guidelines" to write your own adventure for the game day, and it didnt even have good tie ins of the retailers (for isntance, the was a suggestion that the adventure had something to do with ravenloft, but nothing in the adventure really linked that up). the retailer kit was crappy and it was "limited" so not every story that wanted them got them. I run Necromancer Games. I supported my local game store. I volunteered to be a guest DM for the game day. i recruited 4 other DMs. I got people pumped. I brought in over $200 worth of Necro give away items for the day. But the CRAP that WotC put out was pathetic. This was D&D FREAKING GAMEDAY!!!! ONCE A YEAR!!!! THE CHANCE TO HELP NEWBIES GET INVOLVED AND TO HELP RETAILERS KEEP D&D A VIABLE AND VISIBLE PRESENCE AND THAT WAS IT?!?!?! A JOKE! I was obvious that no one spent any real time making the pregens. I mean, I dont even know if the person who made the pregens actually plays D&D. I find that impossible to believe. And the adventure, it could not possibly have been playtested with those pregens. Not by anyone that actually plays D&D. And no good tie ins for retailers at all. I was so underwhelmed. I was really disappointed with WotC's efforts on this. HERE IS MY PLEDGE: NEXT YEAR, I WILL WRITE A FREE ADVENTURE FOR D&D GAMEDAY AND MAKE IT AVAILABLE ON OUR WEBSITE AND I WILL TAKE THE GAMEDAY PREGENS AND TWEAK THEM TO BE ACTUALLY PLAYABLE PREGENS!!! Then we can call it Necro Gameday. Unbelievably disappointing. I will say this--I'm sure plenty of people had fun. And for that I am glad. But this isnt just for having fun, it is for SHOWING OFF D&D. That was a really really piss poor job of showcasing D&D. By the way, I say this loving WotC. I love the people there. I think they have been doing great stuff recently. I love their products the last year or so. Which makes this disappointment all the more surprising and troubling. Its like they didnt even bother... Clark [/QUOTE]
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