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Message: <blockquote data-quote="skinnydwarf" data-source="post: 3158465" data-attributes="member: 7024">My party got TPK'd by the Hellcat, but I still had a blast.  When we fought the wizard and the lava monster, the wizard escaped, and we healed up before going after him.  Unfortunately, he got a web ready, and many of us got stuck in the web while the hellcat made mincemeat of us.  My ranger managed to escape to the rooms behind the bars, but then got mauled by the undead there, and finished off by the hellcat and wizard once they caught up to me.Sure, the pre-gens were unoptimized.  Maybe a little too unoptimized (the Paladin, as was mentioned before in the thread).  I don't think the characters should have been optimized for the adventure, but they could have been a little better.  My Ranger had 7 ranks in ride.  A useful skill, but I could have used some more ranks in hide.  That being said, the fact that the characters were not really optimized made the adventure harder.I think that the fact that the adventure was so difficult really gives the players who survived it, with no losses (as another group at my venue accomplished), some bragging rights.  I only wish my party had made it.</blockquote>