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<blockquote data-quote="LokiDR" data-source="post: 715608" data-attributes="member: 6239">First: Depend on your fantasy world.&nbsp; Traveling merchants have been selling wares of all values from town to town for centuries.&nbsp; The most valuable of items could be purchased from these merchants, if you could find the right one.&nbsp; WalMart is modern, but that doesn't mean the merchant is.Second: If you want to roleplay, the go for it.&nbsp; Buying items in a shop is a lot more condusive to roleplaying than most dungeons I have seen.&nbsp; If you just want to get back to the killing field, menus are better.&nbsp; Just because there are shops with all manner of magical items doesn't mean you don't have any roleplaying.&nbsp; Price haggling alone could be an encounter.Third:&nbsp; Simple cost to the characters.&nbsp; That is the menu system, if the PCs want to use it.&nbsp; Maybe the party doesn't want to track down a particular item.&nbsp; Maybe they want to create unique items.&nbsp; Maybe they want to be their own magic shop.&nbsp; The create feats are still useful.Fourth: besides the non-wizard casters, there are lots of reasons for the wizard to create magic arms and armor: Every fighter wants one, so he knows they will sell.&nbsp; The fighters tend to keep the wizards alive longer.&nbsp; There is something of a mystique about a magic sword.&nbsp; Because his friend asked him to.&nbsp; Because he doesn't like wizards in general.&nbsp; Because he always wanted to be a fighter but never could.&nbsp; I think your &quot;realism&quot; test is narrow-minded.Fifth: magic items are cheap to ballance the classes.&nbsp; If magic items are not pretty easy to acquire, the fighter types will lag behind the casters.&nbsp; Then you need to limit casters, or add something else to the fighters.&nbsp; Like it or not, that is the way 3rd ed works.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="LokiDR, post: 715608, member: 6239"] First: Depend on your fantasy world. Traveling merchants have been selling wares of all values from town to town for centuries. The most valuable of items could be purchased from these merchants, if you could find the right one. WalMart is modern, but that doesn't mean the merchant is. Second: If you want to roleplay, the go for it. Buying items in a shop is a lot more condusive to roleplaying than most dungeons I have seen. If you just want to get back to the killing field, menus are better. Just because there are shops with all manner of magical items doesn't mean you don't have any roleplaying. Price haggling alone could be an encounter. Third: Simple cost to the characters. That is the menu system, if the PCs want to use it. Maybe the party doesn't want to track down a particular item. Maybe they want to create unique items. Maybe they want to be their own magic shop. The create feats are still useful. Fourth: besides the non-wizard casters, there are lots of reasons for the wizard to create magic arms and armor: Every fighter wants one, so he knows they will sell. The fighters tend to keep the wizards alive longer. There is something of a mystique about a magic sword. Because his friend asked him to. Because he doesn't like wizards in general. Because he always wanted to be a fighter but never could. I think your "realism" test is narrow-minded. Fifth: magic items are cheap to ballance the classes. If magic items are not pretty easy to acquire, the fighter types will lag behind the casters. Then you need to limit casters, or add something else to the fighters. Like it or not, that is the way 3rd ed works. [/QUOTE]

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