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Message: <blockquote data-quote="kaomera" data-source="post: 5446756" data-attributes="member: 38357">In my 3.x group I had two players who where really annoying (but not douchebags) because they where really, really slow and tended to spend a lot of time flipping through books durring their turns. One of them was also really bad about not paying attention or knowing what was going on, and he ended up being asked to leave after a number of complaints from other players. The second was much more managable, except that he seemed to be going out of his way to make his own job (of managing his character) harder and harder...The douchbaggery comes from the fact that I eventually (and I really should have picked up on it earlier) reallized / found out that at least a few of the other players where deliberately exascerbating the situation (in both cases) for their own amusement. The first player they would distract and/or give wrong information to when he asked questions, and they only came to me about having him removed from the game after he asked them to please stop that. The second they had apparently teased quite a bit outside of the game about his inability to handle complex characters, to the point that he felt the need to prove them wrong...</blockquote>