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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ariuss" data-source="post: 4298348" data-attributes="member: 68684">So, there are a few threads now on house rules for multiclassing.  Here's my take on it.  Warning...this is a long post...General Comments            This is an overhaul of the multiclass system.  It is consistent with what I believe to be the core mechanic of 4th edition multiclassing.  That is that multiclassing is accomplished through the use of feats and is learned as you progress in levels.            Rules in players handbook require one feat spent for each power swapped.  I feel this is too restrictive and costly.  Spending one feat to swap one power gives you no incremental benefits.  In terms of balancing it amounts to a wasted feat.  The multiclassing rules in the players handbook also give very little access to the class features of the second class.            The intent here is to have a smaller feat penalty for allowing power swaps.  However, some limits and feat expenditure is needed to avoid multiclassing abuse.  For example, taking one base class for extra hit points, proficiencies, etc and then multiclassing into the class that you actually want your powers from.  The class you want the most should be your main class and not your second class.            Allow more access to class features of your second class through feats.  Thus you can play more like your second class.  This has to be limited/balanced so that spending feats this way is not more attractive than taking the regular feats.  Atleast one class feature accessed this way has to be limited so that the role defining second class features are not quite as good as if they were single classed.  The goal is to allow more interesting multiclassing but to still keep single classing rewarding!!            Near full access to your second class should be roughly half of your feats.  Out of 18 feats this would then cost approximately 9 feats.  I don't know for certain that this the right cost in feats.  I figure it is likely better to error on the side of requiring too many feats.  Players likely won't mind if later on if the feat cost is reduced.                        Summary            When you select a multiclass feat you get some limited use of a class feature of your second class and an additional skill.  You can then select a second feat to swap powers with a few restrictions (based on levels and only up to 1/3).  In the paragon tier you can spend a third feat to swap up to half your powers.  You can spend more feats to get additional uses of the class features of your second class.                        Rules            All feats and class features are as written in Players Handbook with the following exceptions and additions.              Base multiclassing feats do not grant implement usage (Multiclassing does not give free armour and weapon proficiency, so I am treating implements the same way).             Base multiclassing feats give one skill as in Players Handbook and one herioc class feature from your second class (see below).            Paragon multiclassing is redundant with these house rules and should not be taken.  You can take a paragon path from your second class if you have 3 multiclass feats (Multiclass Paragon paths require some dedication to your second class).            Extra damage from Hunter's Quarry, Rogue Sneak Attack, and Warlock's Curse do NOT stack.Channel Divinity can never be used more than once per encounter (for Paladin / Cleric characters)Feats (Not specifically multiclass)Extra Paragon PowerPrerequisite: ParagonDescription: Gain one more at-will power for a total of 3 at-will powers.  If you have Heroic Power Swap or Paragon Power Swap you are still subject to those limits for choosing an at-will power from your second class.Extra Epic PowerPrerequisite: Extra Paragon PowerEpicDescription: Gain one more at-will power for a total of 4 at-will powers.  If you have Heroic Power Swap or Paragon Power Swap you are still subject to those limits for choosing an at-will power from your second class.Multiclass FeatsInitiate of the FaithPrerequisite: As in Players HandbookDescription: Gives skill as in Players Handbook.  Also gives one heroic Class Feature.Student of the SwordPrerequisite: As in Players HandbookDescription: Gives skill as in Players Handbook.  Also gives one heroic Class Feature.Soldier of the FaithPrerequisite: As in Players HandbookDescription: Gives skill as in Players Handbook.  Also gives one heroic Class Feature.Warrior of the WildPrerequisite: As in Players HandbookDescription: Gives skill as in Players Handbook.  Also gives one heroic Class Feature.Sneak of ShadowsPrerequisite: As in Players HandbookDescription: Gives skill as in Players Handbook.  Also gives one heroic Class Feature.Pact InitiatePrerequisite: As in Players HandbookDescription: Gives skill as in Players Handbook.  Also gives one heroic Class Feature.  The player can initially only choose only Eldrith Blast as a Warlock at-will power if the player has a Power Swap feat.  Student of BattlePrerequisite: As in Players HandbookDescription: Gives skill as in Players Handbook.  Also gives one heroic Class Feature.Arcane InitiatePrerequisite: As in Players HandbookDescription: Gives skill as in Players Handbook.  Also gives one heroic Class Feature.  The player has a spellbook but does not gain any free Rituals.Herioc Multiclass FeaturePrerequisite: Base Multiclass FeatDescription: Choose one Heroic Multiclass feature of same class as given by your base multiclass feat.Paragon Multiclass FeaturePrerequisite: Base Multiclass FeatHeroic Multiclass FeatureParagonDescription: Choose one Paragon Multiclass feature of which you have Heroic access to.Epic Multiclass FeaturePrerequisite: Base Multiclass FeatParagon Multiclass FeatureEpicDescription: Choose one Epic Multiclass feature of which you have Paragon access to.Implement ProficiencyPrerequisite: Base Multiclass FeatSecond class that can use implementDescription: You may choose one implement that your second class can normally use.  You are now proficient with this implement and may use it to aid powers.Heroic Power SwapPrerequisite: Base Multiclass FeatDescription: You may now swap powers with your second class as described in the Players HandbookUp to one third of your powers of each type (At-will, Encounter, Utility, Daily) can be from your second class.  You can have a minimum of one from each type from your second class.  The types that can be swapped according to the following progression.At-Will - Any LevelEncounter - 4th LevelUtility - 8th LevelDaily - 10th LevelParagon Power SwapPrerequisite: Base Multiclass FeatHeroic Power SwapParagonLevel 16Description: As Heroic Power Swap except up to one half of your powers of each type may be from your second class.Multiclass FeaturesClass: ClericClass Feature: Channel DivinityTier: HeroicDescription: Use 1 / Day (and only 1 / Encounter)Class: ClericClass Feature: Channel DivinityTier: ParagonDescription: Use 2 / Day (and only 1 / Encounter)Class: ClericClass Feature: Channel DivinityTier: EpicDescription: Use 1 / Encounter as per players handbookClass: ClericClass Feature: Healers LoreTier: HeroicDescription: Use 2 / EncounterClass: ClericClass Feature: Healers LoreTier: ParagonDescription: As in Players HandbookClass: ClericClass Feature: Healing WordTier: HeroicDescription: Use 1 / DayClass: ClericClass Feature: Healing WordTier: ParagonDescription: Use 2 / DayClass: ClericClass Feature: Healing WordTier: EpicDescription: Use 3 / Day (Does not reach full usage)Class: ClericClass Feature: Ritual CastingTier: HeroicDescription: As feat in Players HandbookClass: ClericClass Feature: Cleric RitualsTier: HeroicDescription: Prereq: Ritual Casting.  Gain Gentle Repose and one other 1st level ritual.Class: FighterClass Feature: Combat ChallengeTier: HeroicDescription: Use 1 / Encounter.  If you attack an enemy that has your mark you may renew this without spending a use.Class: FighterClass Feature: Combat ChallengeTier: ParagonDescription: Use 2 / Encounter.  If you attack an enemy that has your mark you may renew this without spending a use.Class: FighterClass Feature: Combat ChallengeTier: EpicDescription: Use 3 / Encounter.  If you attack an enemy that has your mark you may renew this without spending a use. (Does not reach full usage)Class: FighterClass Feature: Combat SuperiorityTier: HeroicDescription: Use 1 / EncounterClass: FighterClass Feature: Combat SuperiorityTier: ParagonDescription: Use 2 / EncounterClass: FighterClass Feature: Combat SuperiorityTier: EpicDescription: As per Players HandbookClass: FighterClass Feature: Fighter Weapon TalentTier: HeroicDescription: Use 2 / EncounterClass: FighterClass Feature: Fighter Weapon TalentTier: ParagonDescription: As per Players HandbookClass: PaladinClass Feature: Channel DivinityTier: HeroicDescription: Use 1 / Day (and only 1 / Encounter)Class: PaladinClass Feature: Channel DivinityTier: ParagonDescription: Use 2 / Day (and only 1 / Encounter)Class: PaladinClass Feature: Channel DivinityTier: EpicDescription: Use 1 / Encounter as per players handbookClass: PaladinClass Feature: Divine ChallengeTier: HeroicDescription: Use 1 / EncounterClass: PaladinClass Feature: Divine ChallengeTier: ParagonDescription: Use 2 / EncounterClass: PaladinClass Feature: Divine ChallengeTier: EpicDescription: Use 3 / Encounter (Does not reach full usage)Class: PaladinClass Feature: Lay on HandsTier: HeroicDescription: Use 2 / EncounterClass: PaladinClass Feature: Lay on HandsTier: ParagonDescription: As per Players HandbookClass: RogueClass Feature: First StrikeTier: HeroicDescription: As per Players HandbookClass: RogueClass Feature: Rogue TacticsTier: HeroicDescription: Use 2 / EncounterClass: RogueClass Feature: Rogue TacticsTier: ParagonDescription: As per Players HandbookClass: RogueClass Feature: Weapon TalentTier: HeroicDescription: Use 2 / EncounterClass: RogueClass Feature: Weapon TalentTier: ParagonDescription: As per Players HandbookClass: RogueClass Feature: Sneak AttackTier: HeroicDescription: Use 1 / EncounterClass: RogueClass Feature: Sneak AttackTier: ParagonDescription: Use 2 / EncounterClass: RogueClass Feature: Sneak AttackTier: EpicDescription: Use 3 / Encounter (Does not reach full usage)Class: RangerClass Feature: Fighting Style Archer (Defensive Mobility)Tier: HeroicDescription: Defensive Mobility as per FeatClass: RangerClass Feature: Fighting Style Two-Blade (Toughness)Tier: HeroicDescription: Toughness as per FeatClass: RangerClass Feature: Fighting Style Two-BladeTier: HeroicDescription: Second weapon uses one lower dice category for damange. 2 / Encounter you can use normal dice category for damage.Class: RangerClass Feature: Fighting Style Two-BladeTier: ParagonDescription: Second weapon used normally as in Players HandbookClass: RangerClass Feature: Prime ShotTier: HeroicDescription: Use 2 / EncounterClass: RangerClass Feature: Prime ShotTier: HeroicDescription: As per Players HandbookClass: RangerClass Feature: Hunter's QuarryTier: HeroicDescription: Extra damage applies only 1 / EncounterClass: RangerClass Feature: Hunter's QuarryTier: ParagonDescription: Extra damage applies only 2 / EncounterClass: RangerClass Feature: Hunter's QuarryTier: EpicDescription: Extra damage applies only 3 / Encounter (Does not reach full usage)Class: WizardClass Feature: Arcane Implement MasteryTier: HeroicDescription: Prereq: Proficiency with implement.  Listed encounter use is instead usable 2 / Day (and only 1 / Encounter)Class: WizardClass Feature: Arcane Implement MasteryTier: ParagonDescription: As per Players Handbook.  This must be taken to be considered as having Arcane Implement Mastery class feature for selecting the Second Implement Feat.Class: WizardClass Feature: CantripsTier: HeroicDescription: Use each cantrip 1 / EncounterClass: WizardClass Feature: CantripsTier: ParagonDescription: As per Players HandbookClass: WizardClass Feature: Ritual CastingTier: HeroicDescription: As feat in Players HandbookClass: WizardClass Feature: Heroic Wizard RitualsTier: HeroicDescription: Prereq: Ritual Casting.  Gain any two 1st level rituals.Class: WizardClass Feature: Paragon Wizard RitualsTier: ParagonDescription: Prereq: Ritual Casting and Heroic Wizard Rituals.  Gain any two 11th level rituals.Class: WizardClass Feature: Epic Wizard RitualsTier: EpicDescription: Prereq: Ritual Casting and Paragon Wizard Rituals.  Gain any two 21st level rituals. (Does not give as many rituals as single class wizard)Class: WarlordClass Feature: Combat LeaderTier: HeroicDescription: Use 2 / DayClass: WarlordClass Feature: Combat LeaderTier: ParagonDescription: As per Players HandbookClass: WarlordClass Feature: Commanding PresenceTier: HeroicDescription: Use 1 / EncounterClass: WarlordClass Feature: Commanding PresenceTier: ParagonDescription: Use 2 / EncounterClass: WarlordClass Feature: Commanding PresenceTier: EpicDescription: As per Players HandbookClass: WarlordClass Feature: Inspiring WordTier: HeroicDescription: Use 1 / DayClass: WarlordClass Feature: Inspiring WordTier: ParagonDescription: Use 2 / DayClass: WarlordClass Feature: Inspiring WordTier: EpicDescription: Use 3 / Day (Does not reach full usage)Class: WarlockClass Feature: Eldrith PactTier: HeroicDescription: Use Pact Boon 2 / Encounter.  Can choose Pack at-will power if you have a power swap feat.  You do not get this at-will power automatically.  Need this feature to be able to qualify for the respective warlock paragon pathClass: WarlockClass Feature: Eldrith PactTier: ParagonDescription: Use Pact Boon As per Players HandbookClass: WarlockClass Feature: Prime ShotTier: HeroicDescription: Use 2 / EncounterClass: WarlockClass Feature: Prime ShotTier: ParagonDescription: As per Players HandbookClass: WarlockClass Feature: Shadow WalkTier: HeroicDescription: Use 2 / EncounterClass: WarlockClass Feature: Shadow WalkTier: ParagonDescription: As per Players HandbookClass: WarlockClass Feature: Warlocks CurseTier: HeroicDescription: Extra damage applies only 1 / EncounterClass: WarlockClass Feature: Warlocks CurseTier: ParagonDescription: Extra damage applies only 2 / EncounterClass: WarlockClass Feature: Warlocks CurseTier: EpicDescription: Extra damage applies only 3 / Encounter (Does not reach full usage)</blockquote>

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