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<blockquote data-quote="Geron Raveneye" data-source="post: 3878036" data-attributes="member: 2268"><p>One thing to keep in mind is that with a growing amount of options and the &quot;dilution&quot; of what a class title actually means, it's pretty helpful to include secondary role descriptions in the class make-up. In earlier edition, a Fighter was a Fighter, a Magic-User was a Magic-User, a Thief was a Thief, etc. , and everybody knew exactly what was meant with that. By now, that's not so clear-cut anymore...and the PHB never was an &quot;in-game manual for the aspiring wizard/man-at-arms/conman/insert class flavour&quot; but a book that explained the game to the players, including the roles of the classes. And if the conversations shift from &quot;Damn we're missing a first-aid-kit, Michael, you play a cleric&quot; to &quot;Damn, we're missing a defender, Michael plays the paladin&quot;, that's not much of a difference in my book. <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/laugh.png"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing&nbsp; &nbsp; :lol:" data-shortname=":lol:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="Geron Raveneye, post: 3878036, member: 2268"] One thing to keep in mind is that with a growing amount of options and the "dilution" of what a class title actually means, it's pretty helpful to include secondary role descriptions in the class make-up. In earlier edition, a Fighter was a Fighter, a Magic-User was a Magic-User, a Thief was a Thief, etc. , and everybody knew exactly what was meant with that. By now, that's not so clear-cut anymore...and the PHB never was an "in-game manual for the aspiring wizard/man-at-arms/conman/insert class flavour" but a book that explained the game to the players, including the roles of the classes. And if the conversations shift from "Damn we're missing a first-aid-kit, Michael, you play a cleric" to "Damn, we're missing a defender, Michael plays the paladin", that's not much of a difference in my book. :lol: [/QUOTE]

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