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Message: <blockquote data-quote="BiggusGeekus" data-source="post: 1457710" data-attributes="member: 1014">Well, what don't you like about it and what elements are you trying to introduce into the church?Random thoughts:1) My personal feeling about domains is that they should be limited.  I like having my players make choices and for tradeoffs to exist.  So unless this is a major diety, I'd nix one of the domains.  Probably knowledge.  I know you want the clerics to follow their own lineage, but that doesn't really justify an entire domain.  Plus, reading the god's description, the whole lineage thing doesn't seem to be what the god is about.  Lineage is what his followers are about.  Which can make things intersting if you are a rat bastage DM (and if you aren't, you can probably ignore the rest of my reply).2) Every good-based church needs a schism.  Why? I dunno.  Evil churches don't seem to have them much.  You don't see followers of Lloth debating the necessity of web-based design choices in their temples.  But good churchs gotta have them.  In your case the Loyalty and Honor aspects make for a nice    area to pry open.  Honor - "The Purehearts" - these are the guys who follow their own lineage as mandated by church canon but don't really hold much by it.  They strive to serve Ustan on their own terms.  No job is too small for them, a 13th level Ustan paladin will happily trot off for a couple of days to abolish a simple zombie.  Their weakness is that this causes them to lack a greater perspective.  By juding honor based on the now they frequently forget the consequences of their actions and ignore the historical context of a given event.Loyalty - "The Truehearts" - these are the guys who slay undead as their god demands but are trying to solve the greater problems.  They strive to serve Ustan by eliminating the cause of problems and not just the symptoms.  Their focus on their past gives them an excellent sense of perspective and they will let a town be plagued by a zombie attack if it means they have a shot at taking out an evil necromancer.  3)  Conflict.  Now we could play nice and keep the Loyalty bunch in charge.  They'd be natural for it, right?  And the Honor faction would make great footsoldiers.Muah-hah-hah.The Ustan churge is very rigid.  In its older days the natural leaders of the church were the ones who accomplished the heroic deeds.  This put the honor faction in charge, while the loyalty faction did the minor administrative tasks and kept the records.  The loyalists would never dream of upsetting the natural order of things and the honorists don't have the perspective to see the problems this arrangement causes.  So loyalist footsoldiers are often sent on tasks that are not scaled to their abilities because the honorists dwell only on the issues of the moment.  In extreme cases, veterans of many battles are sent out to banish a skeleton while a youth might be tasked with facing down a band of ghouls.  It's all about who's immediately available and drawing from that pool.So you have a church that is good-oriented but is a beauraucratic nightmare and no one in the organization is willing to address the problem.Howzzat?</blockquote>

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