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Message: <blockquote data-quote="PrecociousApprentice" data-source="post: 4243855" data-attributes="member: 61449">I see all the fluff changes in 4e as stupid. I will not be using them. Dragonborn, teiflings, I would rather not put them in my campaigns. The cosmology is also dumpable. I have never used the core cosmology. With that said, I think that the new rules are more fun than the older rules. They will take a little getting used to, and many might take a change in perspective to buy into, but I have never had any real attachment to any of the D&Disms. Even my "simulation" days were mostly trying to "simulate" fantasy literature and movies that were not D&D. They were inspirations for D&D, but definitely not the collage of things that is D&D. I think that with a little creativity I will get everything in my previous campaigns to fit into 4e. I will also get everything that I want in fantasy literature to fit in 4e. Maybe not perfectly, but better than any previous editions could.As far as rules go, I can undrstand peoples objections to the WTF moments where, say two marks can't be placed simultaneously on one adversary. I will just have a "Move along, nothing to see here," moment. Every edition had them, nothing new. I just like the new rules better. I had taken a little break from gaming because 3.x was not fun to prep for. I have been playing since 1986, and maybe that qualifies me as a grognard, maybe not, but I am back and excited about gaming again. That in itself says someting about the new game. Maybe you like the earlier editions. Great, have fun, and if we can ever get together I am sure I would have a good time in your game. I am just glad I will never have to prep for 3.x again.</blockquote>

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