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Message: <blockquote data-quote="geezerjoe" data-source="post: 1024837" data-attributes="member: 8603">Well the limit comes from everyone not being able to use it ... its very non-transferable ... esp. in campaign worlds where wizards aren't that common (plus really (IMHO) most magic items would be arcane- or divine-casting-class-centric? I mean really ... why make a Greatsword +5 when I could make boots of teleportation? Not saying I would NEVER make a Greatsword +5, but it would be much less likely.)BUT as you said, for the character that desires it, it's not that bad a problem and thus the reason I asked the question in the first place. How about a Keen Longsword +2 that will only function if you sing to it the night before (Perform check 15+) AND you are chaotic?!?! ... No way that can be as valuable as a regular Keen Longsword +2 ... but there's no way that would be easier to create ... AAGH <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue    :p"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /> This one sounds intelligent anyway so it might be a bad example.Then again ... maybe I'm just making myself loopy (er).Thanks againJ2O</blockquote>