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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Harr" data-source="post: 4575034" data-attributes="member: 47190">Yes, you can do either, or you can do both. Depends on the group. For my group there are basically three modes of playing, adventuring/combat, shopping, and skill-using mini-games for everything else. (Hm maybe that's a better word for what I'm looking for... skill mini-games... seems like it would be controversial though.)I do it a bit differently. I tell the player what he can roll (or he tells me what he wants to roll and I allow it), and then if he succeeds, he can tell me what happens in the story scene within reason as pertains to the roll used. If he fails, he simply doesn't get to do anything.For example, the above "charming the shopkeeper" scene might go like this:Me: Ok you go into the store, the shopkeeper is a tiefling girl and says hi. Ok whoever wants to say something can roll either Diplomacy, Intimidate, Bluff or Streetwise to 19.Dragonborn PC: Ok I try Intimidate... 25 yeah!Dwarf PC: Hrmm I try Streetwise... 15 bah.Tiefling PC: Streetwise... 19!Eladrin PC: Diplomacy... 6!!! (we all laugh)Me: Ok, Dragonborn, the girl is looking fearfully at you for some reason.Dragonborn: I tell her she better give us some damn good prices or else!Me: Great, she quivers in fear at your awesomeness. Tiefling, you know some friends of hers and have actually been out partying with her a few nights!Tiefling: Haha, alright I ask her if she has any special items for sale for me.Me: She smiles cause you're her friend and says she does have a special high level thing reserved just for you. Ok so thanks to Dragonborn's threats you guys have 5% off anything you wanna buy from this girl for today, and thanks to Tiefling's social networking powers you can buy one amulet of (whatever) which you normally wouldn't even be able to find.PCs: Yeah!And that's it... that's a "skill challenge" and that's "roleplaying" as far as we're concerned <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> I don't know, I guess I could go into details of why we've wound up doing it like that (stuff like focusing only on the characters' victories or something), but really it's just what's most fun for us.Of course, nowadays this is not a skill "challenge" anymore, which is the point of the thread, that this kind of random little skill stuff is still worth formalizing into some kind of mini-templates for use as tools by DM's. I would like to gradually come up with a skill test "toolbox" with several different structures to apply to different situations.</blockquote>

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