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<blockquote data-quote="Marandahir" data-source="post: 8070806" data-attributes="member: 6803643"><p>They tried to do that a bit with the Mystic Order of the Wu Jen (D&D's take on the 5 Chinese elements magic users). It didn't do well, likely in part because classes & subclasses named Samurai, Ninja, Kensei, Sohei, Shugenja, Wu Jen, etc are culturally insensitive as they pigeonhole those concepts and are often created by a white dude who likes anime.</p><p></p><p>Doesn't mean we didn't get Samurai and Kensei in the end with Xanathar's (though Samurai especially has had blowback). I'd argue if they had called it the Mystic Order of the Elements, it would have been more successful. </p><p></p><p>That said, Mystic failed because it wasn't a class so much as a collection of mini-classes that use psionics. The way it fell apart really indicated that Psionics work better as subclasses of existing classes than as their own class that encompasses all of them (I still think there's room for a separate Psion/Mystic, though, that focuses on being an Intelligent psychic caster/investigator/etc).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Marandahir, post: 8070806, member: 6803643"] They tried to do that a bit with the Mystic Order of the Wu Jen (D&D's take on the 5 Chinese elements magic users). It didn't do well, likely in part because classes & subclasses named Samurai, Ninja, Kensei, Sohei, Shugenja, Wu Jen, etc are culturally insensitive as they pigeonhole those concepts and are often created by a white dude who likes anime. Doesn't mean we didn't get Samurai and Kensei in the end with Xanathar's (though Samurai especially has had blowback). I'd argue if they had called it the Mystic Order of the Elements, it would have been more successful. That said, Mystic failed because it wasn't a class so much as a collection of mini-classes that use psionics. The way it fell apart really indicated that Psionics work better as subclasses of existing classes than as their own class that encompasses all of them (I still think there's room for a separate Psion/Mystic, though, that focuses on being an Intelligent psychic caster/investigator/etc). [/QUOTE]
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