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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Grazzt" data-source="post: 375618" data-attributes="member: 7">Heh- nope that isnt it. Basically here is what's wrong:#1- Missing Climb bonus to Climb skill. Like Dragongirl mentioned, monsters with a climb speed gain a +8 bonus to Climb checks. Check the MM, it is added in to the score and listed in the block.#2- Overall total skill points are off. Vermin have 10-12 skill points period. Remove this guy's ability mods (to skill ranks) and the +4 size modifier from the Hide skill and it leaves this:Skills: Climb +6, Hide +1 (+10 when attached to a dragon), Jump +5, Move Silently +7Total= 19#3- Skill ranks are limited to HD+3. Removing all ability and size mods leaves ranks as above. Climb is too high. Move Silently is too high. Jump is too high.(And yes I know it appears some monsters in the MM break this, but look again. A lot of monsters have racial bonuses to skills. These are listed at the end of the Combat text.)(#4)True- vermin don't normally get feats. But look at the MM's vermin. Several (particularly the spiders and centipedes) have Weapon Finesse (bite). I didnt really count this one since the MM does this. Now, if this guy had like 12 feats or something <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>