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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Technik4" data-source="post: 943634" data-attributes="member: 7211">I understand the reasons for the "patch"However, I think your feats are too powerful.Lets consider your first example, a Wiz4/Ftr4. This character has had 3 bonus feats from the fighter class, 4 feats from regular character levels, and is coming up on both a character feat and a bonus feat from wizard levels. In essence, this character has many feats, so a feat as a "cost" for improved abilities is small.Now lets compare a Ftr8, Wiz8, and a Wiz4/Ftr4 (with the AD feat).Ftr 8Hp: 810+conBAB: +8/+3AC: High (heavy armor)Spells: 0Feats: 8 (5 bonus fighter feats)Wiz8Hp: 8d4+conBAB: +4AC: High (magic)Spells: 4thFeats: 4 (1 bonus wizard feat)Wiz4/Ftr4Hp: 4d4+4d10+conAC: High (light armor+magic)BAB: +6/+1Spells: 3rdFeats: 5 (3 bonus fighter feats, 1 spent on AD)Statistically he is superior to either pure build, for the cost of 1 feat (which for this particular character, is a small cost). When you start adding prcs to all builds, the ftr/wiz comes out on top, with a higher than usual amount of spells. In this example he is only *1* spell level (2 caster levels) behind a straight wizard. His benefits are enormous.Clearly, to balance the feat with this example the requirements must be increased. I am not sure of the best way to go about this. After some thought, I think your feat is too powerful at all levels as written. At lower levels, you endanger the pure wizards, and at higher levels you can get as many as *3* spell levels for 1 feat. Thats 6 levels worth of classes!To this end I would make it so the feat can at most replace 2 levels of a spellcasting class (but may be taken multiple times). Furthermore, I would add an XP cost towards fulfilling the "cost" of the feat.Your theurgery feat has the same problem. With the cost of 2 feats, a Wiz4/Clr4 is only 1 spell level behind a pure Wizard or Cleric. Certainly they become more powerful than the pure Wizard, and arguably more powerful than the pure Cleric.Technik</blockquote>

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