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<blockquote data-quote="MoogleEmpMog" data-source="post: 2025934" data-attributes="member: 22882">Which edition of Monopoly are we on, again?&nbsp; Or poker?&nbsp; I can buy &quot;Pokemon Monopoly,&quot; but it isn't Monopoly 122nd Edition Special Pokemon Rules.&nbsp; It's Monopoly with pokemon's pictures on it.A well designed game can have relevant subject matter without changing its format or rules.&nbsp; A boxed game is still the most familiar format to the WalMart buyer.Purely antecdotal evidence, but the people I see mostly buying and playing D&amp;D miniatures are wargamers who want a (somewhat) cheaper hobby than Warhammer and people who bought into from D&amp;D.&nbsp; The miniatures gamers have a significantly higher average age than the roleplayers, and the youngest of them are the crossovers.The Star Wars miniatures game has, at least in my area, pulled in a lot more new gamers, as opposed to new miniatures gamers.&nbsp; That one has real potential as a gateway product to the SWRPG.For years, video game designers aspired to games that were &quot;easy to learn, difficult to master&quot; - the same applies here.&nbsp; Spellcasting and character creation come in basically from day one and can be offputting and confusing.&nbsp; A complex and especially tactical rulesset is indeed a plus, but it should start of &quot;easy to learn.&quot;&nbsp; That's my biggest knock on 3.x D&amp;D and, to a lesser extent, the rest of d20.&nbsp; It's more &quot;difficult to learn, easy to master&quot; than the inverse.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="MoogleEmpMog, post: 2025934, member: 22882"] Which edition of Monopoly are we on, again? Or poker? I can buy "Pokemon Monopoly," but it isn't Monopoly 122nd Edition Special Pokemon Rules. It's Monopoly with pokemon's pictures on it. A well designed game can have relevant subject matter without changing its format or rules. A boxed game is still the most familiar format to the WalMart buyer. Purely antecdotal evidence, but the people I see mostly buying and playing D&D miniatures are wargamers who want a (somewhat) cheaper hobby than Warhammer and people who bought into [U]from D&D[/U]. The miniatures gamers have a [U]significantly[/U] higher average age than the roleplayers, and the youngest of them are the crossovers. The Star Wars miniatures game has, at least in my area, pulled in a lot more new gamers, as opposed to new miniatures gamers. That one has real potential as a gateway product to the SWRPG. For years, video game designers aspired to games that were "easy to learn, difficult to master" - the same applies here. Spellcasting and character creation come in basically from day one and can be offputting and confusing. A complex and especially [U]tactical[/U] rulesset is indeed a plus, but it should start of "easy to learn." That's my biggest knock on 3.x D&D and, to a lesser extent, the rest of d20. It's more "difficult to learn, easy to master" than the inverse. [/QUOTE]

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