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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Raduin711" data-source="post: 3998699" data-attributes="member: 15303">I say keep the auto-hit on 20s, just because there is always a chance.  It isn't too strong.  Take for instance a Fighter character.  Even if you didn't count the 20 as a auto hit, a 20 is pretty much a given to be a hit.  If it isn't, the encounter is waaay above the level of the party and it is either a scenario where the players are meant to fail, or the DM is a jerk. But lets say a character is all out of options; the werewolf has to be killed with this sacred silver dagger, and the only person left in the party to do it is the strength 6 halfling wizard.  Chances are the wizard is going to miss.  But I think he should have a shot at it.  A slim one to be sure, but if that wizard does pick up that dagger and rolls a 20, I think it would be pretty shoddy to deny that hit.Now it may not be "realistic" to give that wizard a 5% chance to hit, but it makes for a good story and a good game.  The 1000 archers thing seems to be more of an internet problem than an actual table problem.  At the table, the DM has a number of excuses to give the players why they need a band of dragonslayers.  Take organizational problems, for instance.  You need 1000 archers, which means you have to feed them, pay them, arm them, train them, get them on the parapets when the dragon comes, keep up their morale, etc.  And who is to say the dragon will not have some kind of defensive ability that will negate any damage the archers can do?  In any event, it's one of those problems that we could probably argue endlessly, and in the end it doesn't matter once we actually get to the gaming table.  As for the auto fail rule, I don't mind it as long as it applies to attack rolls.  Everyone should have a chance of missing.</blockquote>

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