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<blockquote data-quote="Calico_Jack73" data-source="post: 1533430" data-attributes="member: 14403"><p>I think the Paladin did the right thing. Lawful Good does NOT mean Lawful Stupid (yes, that phrase has been thrown around alot on this board). Per Col Pladoh (Gary Gygax) a Paladin might slay an evil doer after they confess their sins so that their souls might pass on to a good plane rather than allow them to take up their evil ways again. Merely temporarily crippling someone makes your Paladin seem to be a saint when compared to Gygax's view on appropriate Paladin conduct.</p><p>I watched a special on the History Channel this weekend that was about torture as punishment (Modern Marvels) and it is amazing that it is only relatively recently that torture has been outlawed. The Vatican didn't officially abolish the Inquisition or their methods until the late 1800's. Tasers and stun belts which are seen as mercy weapons are particularly agonizing yet in our own society using a taser on someone is seen as a preferred alternative to shooting and killing a criminal. On the special they showed footage of volunteer police officers being subjected to a stun belt and a taser and I never had any idea of how agonizing it really was. It is enough to cause people to lose total control of their bodies and defecate and urinate on themselves. I personally cannot imagine that kind of agony.</p><p>Really (and I hope not to weird anyone out here) for the majority of history torture has been seen as a good alternative to incarceration in a prison. You punish someone with agonizing pain and then release them instead of throwing them into prison for years and years which costs quite a bit of money.</p><p></p><p>Anyway, given the medieval fantasy scope of most D&D games I'd imagine that the justice system would be similar to our own during the medieval period with torture being a accepted method of punishment. Given that the crime of the NPCs was attempted murder I think your Paladin went a little light on them. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>Edit: [rant] Another thing... your character "Code of Conduct" is between you and your DM. Your fellow players need to "butt-out" and quit judging your character's actions. I have ALWAYS hated the fact that other players take it upon themselves to become the jury of my Paladin's actions. What my character does is not truely their business. It is between me and the DM... THAT'S IT!!! [/rant]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Calico_Jack73, post: 1533430, member: 14403"] I think the Paladin did the right thing. Lawful Good does NOT mean Lawful Stupid (yes, that phrase has been thrown around alot on this board). Per Col Pladoh (Gary Gygax) a Paladin might slay an evil doer after they confess their sins so that their souls might pass on to a good plane rather than allow them to take up their evil ways again. Merely temporarily crippling someone makes your Paladin seem to be a saint when compared to Gygax's view on appropriate Paladin conduct. I watched a special on the History Channel this weekend that was about torture as punishment (Modern Marvels) and it is amazing that it is only relatively recently that torture has been outlawed. The Vatican didn't officially abolish the Inquisition or their methods until the late 1800's. Tasers and stun belts which are seen as mercy weapons are particularly agonizing yet in our own society using a taser on someone is seen as a preferred alternative to shooting and killing a criminal. On the special they showed footage of volunteer police officers being subjected to a stun belt and a taser and I never had any idea of how agonizing it really was. It is enough to cause people to lose total control of their bodies and defecate and urinate on themselves. I personally cannot imagine that kind of agony. Really (and I hope not to weird anyone out here) for the majority of history torture has been seen as a good alternative to incarceration in a prison. You punish someone with agonizing pain and then release them instead of throwing them into prison for years and years which costs quite a bit of money. Anyway, given the medieval fantasy scope of most D&D games I'd imagine that the justice system would be similar to our own during the medieval period with torture being a accepted method of punishment. Given that the crime of the NPCs was attempted murder I think your Paladin went a little light on them. :) Edit: [rant] Another thing... your character "Code of Conduct" is between you and your DM. Your fellow players need to "butt-out" and quit judging your character's actions. I have ALWAYS hated the fact that other players take it upon themselves to become the jury of my Paladin's actions. What my character does is not truely their business. It is between me and the DM... THAT'S IT!!! [/rant] [/QUOTE]
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