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Message: <blockquote data-quote="RangerWickett" data-source="post: 82564" data-attributes="member: 63">I had this come up recently, and I allowed a reflex save.  The party was trying to destroy a levee, and they'd used a stoneshape spell to open a narrow shaft at the base of the barricading wall, only about a foot wide.  Water was spraying out through the shaft like a firehose, and the structure was weakening from the stress.A defender of the area was a 12th level wizard, who dimension doored in and dropped a few fireballs.  Then, he noticed one of the PCs was within 5 feet of the levee wall and the spraying waterspout.  So he created a quarter-sphere field of force between the ground and the levee wall, trapping the PC inside.  The water quickly filled the volume, and the PC began to drown.  I know I changed the rules of the spell a little, to allow a bubble flush with the wall, but I also allowed a PC to summon monsters inside a wall of force that an enemy spellcaster was using as defense once, so it's even.But back to the point at hand, I'd allow a Reflex save to jump out of the way, but only if the character knows what spell is being cast on him.</blockquote>