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<blockquote data-quote="Tiama'at" data-source="post: 483800" data-attributes="member: 8742"><p>In general I'm reading this thread and all I take fromit is that if your DM is a complete and utter milksop of course you can abuse any drawback system.</p><p></p><p>The key is the miraculous ability of the DM (with a spine) to suggest alternative, say no, or in extreme cases, tear up your chaarcter sheet, soak the paper ribbons in gasoline and set fire to your PHB while singing showtunes.</p><p></p><p>A drawbacks system is just as open (and closed) to abuse as any other open system in the game. If my DM allows me to roll all my ability scores using 10d100x5, and make my own prestige classes (let's see, how about 2d12 Hit Points per level, 5 free feats per level, spell progression, best saves and BAB rates, and my only qualifier is 'having seen myself naked at some point in my life').</p><p></p><p>People who complain about abuse of drawbacks tend to be those who cannot say no, or sat in a game where the DM could not say no.</p><p></p><p>Play such a game with a DM capable of saying 'no' and doing so often, or in a game with drawbacks where the DM makes the characters based on your narrative descriptions and see how "broken" flaw/defect/drawback/anti-feats can be.</p><p></p><p>BTW, for the Blindsight/Blind charcater - simply reword the 'Blind' anti-feat to say "you cannot use your primary perception sense - commonly sight".</p><p></p><p>- Ma'at</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tiama'at, post: 483800, member: 8742"] In general I'm reading this thread and all I take fromit is that if your DM is a complete and utter milksop of course you can abuse any drawback system. The key is the miraculous ability of the DM (with a spine) to suggest alternative, say no, or in extreme cases, tear up your chaarcter sheet, soak the paper ribbons in gasoline and set fire to your PHB while singing showtunes. A drawbacks system is just as open (and closed) to abuse as any other open system in the game. If my DM allows me to roll all my ability scores using 10d100x5, and make my own prestige classes (let's see, how about 2d12 Hit Points per level, 5 free feats per level, spell progression, best saves and BAB rates, and my only qualifier is 'having seen myself naked at some point in my life'). People who complain about abuse of drawbacks tend to be those who cannot say no, or sat in a game where the DM could not say no. Play such a game with a DM capable of saying 'no' and doing so often, or in a game with drawbacks where the DM makes the characters based on your narrative descriptions and see how "broken" flaw/defect/drawback/anti-feats can be. BTW, for the Blindsight/Blind charcater - simply reword the 'Blind' anti-feat to say "you cannot use your primary perception sense - commonly sight". - Ma'at [/QUOTE]
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